Tacky is Back? and Wedding Report!

We are back with another episode of our podcast, and this week we have a quick update. Well, not so quick, 'cause Dwayne's involved in this. But he tells us about his daughter's wedding, and Stuart and I were honored to be there and be part of the joy. We've known Dwayne since before his daughter was born, so this was a major moment for all of us, and it was a great time. And then we follow that up with an article that Stuart found about things that were once considered tacky and they're now back, and spoiler alert, we think they're idiots.

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Hey, guys. We are back with another episode of our podcast, and this week we have a quick update. Well, not so quick, 'cause Dwayne's involved in this. But he tells us about his daughter's wedding, and Stuart and I were honored to be there and be part of the joy. We've known Dwayne since before his daughter was born, so this was a major moment for all of us, and it was a great time. And then we follow that up with an article that Stuart found about things that were once considered tacky and they're now back, and spoiler alert, we think they're idiots. Let's get to it

stuart 1:39

So it's been a week. Whew.

Jeremy 1:40

has been-- I'm, I'm really worried, or not int- not worried. I'm interested to hear how, Dwayne, you're doing this morning 'cause you

stuart 1:41

Yeah

Jeremy 1:43

like Hawaiian shirt on or, uh... I don't know what kind of shirt that is, but

Dwayne 1:51

Well, randomly, tropical, and, Kathy said this morning, she said, "Hello, Miami Vice." Um, well it's on primarily because it was ironed, and that's what kind of morning. For those listeners, we are taping this not too far away out from the wedding, and, it was beautiful and perfect, and we're not gon- this is not what the show's about. But I am still

stuart 2:15

I am still doing

Dwayne 2:16

major cleanup from the wedding, and so, lots and lots of boxes, and stuff. So I had to get up very early this morning, to, to load my truck up to get boxes to bring them here to work, to the dumpster. And I also knew we had to tape the podcast early, and I'm like, "Oh, that shirt is ironed. Let's go." That's really, that's really

stuart 2:35

Where does iron let's go?

Dwayne 2:35

But no, I, I bought the shirt last year randomly, at, from Goodwill.

stuart 2:40

Huh,

Dwayne 2:41

the reason I

stuart 2:41

really?

Dwayne 2:42

I... Yeah, yeah, it actually is Tommy Bahama. I, it's not my vibe truthfully, but it's Tommy Bahama. But Bahama. I bought it because we were going to, what is it called? Picnic in the, where

stuart 2:54

yeah, picnic with the pops. Yeah

Dwayne 2:56

in the Pops, and it was an '80s theme last year. Well, I didn't have an '80s themed shirt, and this was the closest thing that they had that was air quote '80s theme that I could find, at Goodwill at the last minute. So there you go. So the shirt has lots of, stories and layers to it.

Jeremy 3:10

Well, I am not gonna let you get,

Dwayne 3:11

tacky shirt.

Jeremy 3:12

uh, I, I'm not gonna let you get too far away from, your daughter's wedding, and I don't know how much you want to discuss here. But, Stuart and I were honored enough to be able to be there, and it was such a beautiful, not just visually wedding, but, it was one of the sweetest ones I've been to as far as, like, family, and they-- everybody was so happy and so joyful and so happy for the couple, and you could really feel it. And my, uh, for-- I, I don't wanna give... Like, I don't know how much you wanna kee- how much do you wanna, like, Mom?

Dwayne 3:44

no, no, we don't care. I don't care about

stuart 3:45

It was, it was very

Dwayne 3:47

Chloe show, but, you can, you can ask anything you want. But it, it was a great time

stuart 3:52

Yeah. It, it was very concise, very to the point.

Jeremy 3:57

wedding I

stuart 3:57

They, they were there to, they were there to get married, and that's what they did, and then they went on and had time with their family and friends.

Jeremy 4:05

But,

Dwayne 4:06

what he's talking

stuart 4:06

But

Dwayne 4:07

the ceremony was out in the field, and it was a whole lot of effort, a whole lot of hot, and a whole lot of sweat for, the ceremony to last all about five minutes.

Jeremy 4:16

Less

stuart 4:16

I think it was f- it w- it was three and a half. Mm-hmm

Dwayne 4:19

there we

Jeremy 4:19

a tree in those three minutes

Dwayne 4:21

There

stuart 4:21

They did?

Dwayne 4:23

So when they did the rehearsal the night before, I said to myself, "This is a whole lot of shit to get done for three, three minutes," right? So, but you know what? I went with it and like, "It's your wedding. You do what you wanna do." But they wouldn't know those, I thee I love, and they wouldn't know honor thee, and there was like, "Do you marry this bride?" "Yep." "You marry this, groom?" "Yep." "Okay, we done."

Jeremy 4:44

Yeah, give me the rings,

stuart 4:45

Well,

Jeremy 4:45

over

stuart 4:46

you know, and there is, there's something to, you know, Chloe, w- we knew you before Chloe. You know, Chlo- Chloe, I, I, you know, we should've named her America's Mart because

Dwayne 4:56

Oh,

stuart 4:57

conceived before one shopping trip. So

Dwayne 5:00

remembered.

stuart 5:01

I do remember because we were in that L- we were in that Lincoln Town Car, almost drove us off the cliff, somebody saw my driver's license. So it's all the same time. But I will say to you, because I had a little separate conversation with Chloe kinda on the dance floor, and that is the first time I saw her as an adult woman,

Jeremy 5:23

Mm-hmm.

stuart 5:24

and that is so cool to see

Jeremy 5:26

Mm-hmm.

Dwayne 5:27

Mm-hmm. Mm, how sweet, Stuart.

stuart 5:28

very cool

Jeremy 5:30

Yeah.

Dwayne 5:30

Thank you.

Jeremy 5:31

Uh,

Dwayne 5:31

Uh, it, it is, it was just the, the, the consistent adjective was joy, and that's... You felt it, you see it in the pictures. Those who were, who were there just know what it was. And you're right, it was just, it was just a party, and we went into it with that whole concept, we're just gonna have a party, and there's not gonna be stress, there's not gonna be drama. We are gonna have cake. That was another, later for another story. 'Cause I, that was a line in the sand. But it was just fun. It was just fun. It was fun.

Jeremy 6:03

But I

stuart 6:03

Yeah

Jeremy 6:04

the, the bigger story for me to take away from it is it was fun, but the, the, the family and the connection was so woven throughout the ceremony. I've, I, what I really take, took away from it was, you know what we always say on here when we talk about events or weddings or whatever, that it should be about the couple, right? So it sh- it should be about them and not some tradition that you feel like you just have to go through and, like, check off boxes. And so, her brother was the officiant, which I loved so much, and he got in about 10, 15 seconds before he started to tear up, which I thought was so cute if you knew him. And, the, the family that were in the, the bridal party and, it just, it, the whole thing, it was just, it was so them, and I loved that 'cause that's what it should've been. And,

Dwayne 6:48

Yep.

Jeremy 6:48

really sweet, so it was, it was a fun night.

stuart 6:50

Well, it was

Dwayne 6:51

thank you

Jeremy 6:52

like, and, and we danced to Chaka Khan. So I

stuart 6:55

We did

Jeremy 6:55

I don't know if anybody on here, if we've mentioned it, but, Dwayne was dealing with the, the, DJ, and they were trying to put a list of music together, and I guess the bride and groom had a lot of songs they wanted played that nobody really h- had heard of. Uh, uh, that's what I'm kind of getting to. And so Dwayne's like, "Well, we need some sh-"

Dwayne 7:11

low, slow hippie music.

Jeremy 7:14

hippie. Um,

Dwayne 7:15

hippie

Jeremy 7:16

uh, to, to give you an, a, a picture of how hippie they are on their honeymoon this week at a volcano in Guatemala. Am I correct?

Dwayne 7:24

Mm.

stuart 7:24

In a tent

Jeremy 7:25

tent.

Dwayne 7:26

Oh, people,

stuart 7:27

Ugh.

Dwayne 7:28

you saw some of the pictures, like third world awful,

Jeremy 7:31

like, oh. So, but so Dwayne was like, "Well, we gotta have some Chaka Khan." Well, the DJ played some Chaka Khan, and all three of us had to go to the-- Well, Dwayne had to go to the floor to dance, and then Stuart and I went with to help so he wouldn't be alone. a good time.

Dwayne 7:45

I, I couldn't make it through the whole song.

Jeremy 7:47

Lord, it was

stuart 7:48

It's a long song. It's like seven minutes.

Dwayne 7:50

Yeah, I was like,

stuart 7:51

Yeah.

Jeremy 7:52

Oh, and I, I know I've already mentioned this to you, but I have to give you the biggest kudos for how hard you've worked on that yard. The yard looked

stuart 7:59

this is beautiful. Yeah

Jeremy 8:01

So, so good, and I know that it was a ton of effort, so it was done. So congratulations, and hopefully you can now relax a little

Dwayne 8:10

I did. And like last night was a beautiful evening, and I had to mow some more yard 'cause the rain's coming. But I literally went and sat in the chair and enjoyed the beauty and, you know, there's residuals for all that hard effort, so I took it in. And I really, took visual memory photographs of, of my mother-in-law dancing and having the best time.

Jeremy 8:32

Mm-hmm.

Dwayne 8:32

the, it- I, I visually, we had this, um, r- random, we had this, what we call buggy and horses,

Jeremy 8:41

Mm-hmm.

Dwayne 8:42

that took you from the p- parking out to where the wedding was. And I was standing looking the window, and the bridal party was loading up into the wagon, and there would be, the last people left were Chloe and myself. And I looked at that picture, or looked at that moment and visually took a picture of that beautiful moment. So I was able to not be at the wedding, I was able to experience the wedding. I was able to kind of almost in moments float outside of it and see, mm, see the happiness,

Jeremy 9:12

Yeah. Yeah, well, good

Dwayne 9:14

there, there's memories made in my head. It's, it stuck there, in which, in a good way. So

Jeremy 9:18

Mm-hmm. And we also need to mention how gorgeous your wife was

stuart 9:22

Oh, she was. She was so pretty.

Jeremy 9:26

in

stuart 9:26

So pretty

Jeremy 9:28

I mean,

Dwayne 9:29

She, she glowed, right?

Jeremy 9:30

mm.

stuart 9:31

She did

Jeremy 9:32

Mm-hmm

Dwayne 9:33

she's, she's worked hard at this, and, know, at 50-something, I feel like she's finally found herself. She's found

Jeremy 9:41

Mm-hmm.

Dwayne 9:41

inner beauty, her out beauty, her heart, her all the stuff. So I just say to everybody, "Don't give up," right?

Jeremy 9:49

Mm-hmm.

Dwayne 9:49

low or something, keep working on yourself, tr- keep trying to find yourself, and you will get there and find your joy. And she's, she's there, and she radiated it in every single way

Jeremy 10:01

Well,

stuart 10:01

Yeah.

Jeremy 10:02

uh,

stuart 10:02

Okay

Jeremy 10:03

talked about the pretty, let's, I guess we're gonna talk about tacky? Is that

stuart 10:07

Yes. Yes.

Jeremy 10:08

what we're talking about today?

stuart 10:09

So it is called Tacky is Back. And it was, you know, I, I saw a little blip on, you know, whatever, on my computer, and I was like, "Hmm." So I started reading, and there were like three different articles about Tacky is Back. What is... Better Homes and Gardens had one, House Beautiful had one. So, and it talked about four things that designers are getting requests from clients to put back in their house or that they are just putting it in because it makes sense. So the first thing, which I don't know that is so tacky, you know, I think this is also, you know, personal taste: skirted sofas and chairs. They're saying that that's tacky. Now... Well, I, I know.

Jeremy 10:58

I,

stuart 10:58

It, and it's-

Jeremy 10:59

I don't know how many of these damn articles we've done so far, but every damn thing they ever put on here, all three of us just kind of just look our heads sideways like, "Where the hell are they pulling this shit?"

Dwayne 11:07

telling me

stuart 11:08

in that s-

Dwayne 11:08

in every room gonna have sofas and chairs and tables, and all, every single one of them should have legs exposed? You

stuart 11:17

No, I know. It is stupid because I'm like, these things aren't necessarily tacky, but I guess they related it to these things were all the rage in the late '70s, and then they kind of went away because people thought they were too overdone, and now they're coming back just like everything

Jeremy 11:37

it, was it, because, you know, I wasn't here at that time. Was it, was it seen as like being more formal?

Dwayne 11:43

Soak that in, Stuart. Soak what he

stuart 11:46

you saw the look on my face

Jeremy 11:48

Well, you listen, even if you just said early, if you would've said '80s, the ear- the, the first part of it, I, you know, I don't remember

stuart 11:55

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy 11:56

So, um,

stuart 11:58

I, I would say yes, probably in the rooms that it would read more formal. But

Dwayne 12:04

Yeah. Yeah

stuart 12:05

also then you actually used your living room in the '70s. It wasn't just a room to look at

Jeremy 12:11

Yeah. Well, you know, listen

Dwayne 12:13

at Sandy Anderson's house, I can tell you that. You walked past that, and you did not sit on it? It did not have the plastic covers on it, but you might as well have, so

Jeremy 12:23

You know, sometimes like a room, like a, a, it would be called for a, a sc- a skirt. Like I have, I have no problem with them. But let me tell you, it solves an issue for me because so many times you'll see a beautiful sofa and they'll get to them damn legs and they will put the cheapest, stupidest looking legs on it, or they'll be

stuart 12:39

Like

Jeremy 12:40

really

stuart 12:40

l-

Jeremy 12:40

and they didn't need to be.

stuart 12:42

little plastic caps.

Jeremy 12:43

what the hell? Just put... I, I, yeah, I don't get this one, but okay

stuart 12:48

Yeah.

Dwayne 12:49

well,

stuart 12:49

don't need it

Dwayne 12:50

let's just tell the people that article's wrong. Skirts are

stuart 12:54

It is. Okay, this other thing is ornate gilt mirrors

Jeremy 13:00

they're saying that they're ta- they're, they were tacky

stuart 13:02

The- Now they're back.

Jeremy 13:02

they're back, that's what they're saying?

stuart 13:04

Yes, 'cause they're adding tacky back to your house

Dwayne 13:08

I can get with, I can get with that. I m- it depends on the setting, but generally I don't love those really goopy things, so I

stuart 13:16

Mm-hmm.

Dwayne 13:16

that.

Jeremy 13:17

I, I, I... Well, I think, I th- I'm trying to think, like, why, why would they say... I do know that, like, going to, and I don't wanna say antique shops because it's, it's a

stuart 13:28

Well,

Jeremy 13:29

point.

stuart 13:29

specifically said vintage, so

Jeremy 13:32

So, like, because when you go to, like, a vintage store and you may f- like, there's gonna probably be some, some pieces there that people wanna bring in that aren't just the cheap metal Lowe's mirrors. Does that make... Like, I think if you're, if you're

stuart 13:44

Right

Jeremy 13:45

from that, and you know, this, this whole look of Chloe, I guess we'll say it that way. Like, you know, she's a little hippie, a little bohemian, but you know, trying to have those things that have a history to it. And I, I know that, like, going to these, like, vintage stores or rep- reuse stores is becoming very popular. I mean, there's, there's people I follow on TikTok and Instagram that they only shop at, like, re- like, repurpose stores. Again, like, so somebody's ar- like, is that what they call it? Or, like, previously owned. I don't know. Consignment stores, I guess we'll say it like that.

stuart 14:16

Consignment, yeah

Jeremy 14:17

because it's, um, more sustainable and many, many different reasons in that, so they don't feel like they're, like, contributing to the consumption of, of, of everything. And I see them pulling that and putting it in. So I understand where it's coming from. I just can't ever say that I thought that it was tacky, 'cause if you live in a home that, that makes sense, it makes sense to put it in there.

stuart 14:37

Right

Jeremy 14:38

I have one in my house? No. But do I have a, a mirror in our powder room that's on some kind of, like, horse something that you're not gonna find

stuart 14:47

Going to find a new Oreo? Yes. Does it make you smile? You know, it, it would, I don't know. It would make her smile. Right. Right. Right. Right. It would. It would

Jeremy 14:47

Yes, 'cause it makes sense in my house

Dwayne 14:50

You know, it, it would, I don't have it, but it would make perfect sense in my house,

Jeremy 14:54

Right, right.

Dwayne 14:55

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. uh, you know what popped in my head was in the formal living room that we weren't allowed to sit in, uh, the, uh, it was a mirror that had three ovals that are all interconnected, and it was as, as big as a sofa, right? That's what my mind flashed to. That is that vintage gilded thing that is tacky, right?

Jeremy 15:21

Yeah

Dwayne 15:22

it's kind of Broyhill-like. As opposed to a beautiful ornate carved

Jeremy 15:28

Mm-hmm.

Dwayne 15:28

mirror that you put over a Bombay chest in the foyer. So it, it depends on the setting, and if you have this very formal, mirror that's carved at the top and you have a traditional house, it's not tacky. Now, if you buy this and you try to put it with, I don't know, mid-century, you know, that, that, that doesn't make any sense at all.

stuart 15:48

Modern farmhouse

Dwayne 15:50

We're, we're gonna come back and do, oh, God. We're gonna come back and talk about Stuart's house in another podcast. We did a walk through his, uh, uh, house. We've ref- referenced it before, this remodel. wanna say this in the most beautiful, kind way. You... Literally, I cannot keep thinking about your house and what a beautiful, beautiful job that you did. You just, it is not my aesthetic. You know what my aesthetic is, and I don't care for mid-century modern. It's not my thing. gosh, did you knock it out of the park,

Jeremy 16:21

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm

Dwayne 16:23

and timeless. And we wanna, uh, your brain about how you chose those materials and surfaces and things on a later podcast, 'cause you, you, those who that's their aesthetic, it's a, it, it is going to be a lesson in classic and timeless way to do this that it will be

stuart 16:42

Oh, wow. Well, thank you.

Dwayne 16:44

no,

stuart 16:44

Thank you

Dwayne 16:45

all very, very truthful. Very truthful.

Jeremy 16:47

Mm-hmm

Dwayne 16:48

so what, what we got next?

stuart 16:50

Um, Dwayne, this one's gonna send you over the edge.

Dwayne 16:53

Oh.

stuart 16:54

Ceramic figurines, specifically dogs.

Dwayne 16:59

Mm. Mm. Mm. I love 'em. You know I love 'em.

Jeremy 17:05

Yeah

stuart 17:06

it's, they're bringing them back, but they're still saying that it's tacky

Dwayne 17:13

Well, they're wrong. Uh,

stuart 17:15

We can't keep ceramic dog figurines in the store. Every time we put them out, they're like, "Ah, I want a dog." Yeah

Jeremy 17:22

you

Dwayne 17:23

they're classic to me

stuart 17:24

They, they are. I think they are too

Jeremy 17:26

Um, no, I think th- I think that they are classic. I will say that, for example, when we get them, and if we get, like, the traditional brown and black ones from Papa Bear, like, if they

stuart 17:39

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy 17:39

those aren't necessarily my favorite. So when we get ones in that have been reimagined and redone, so they're not actually, you know, I guess we'll say, I, I always tend to appreciate those more 'cause I feel like it's just a, a new take on it. So just like those figures or those damn people, the, the ones we used to have, the little f- people figurines. I just wanna throw them against the wall. I hate those

stuart 18:04

Oh, oh yeah.

Dwayne 18:05

I love

Jeremy 18:05

I

stuart 18:06

Those little...

Jeremy 18:07

you do. I'm glad you do, and I'm glad that you have them. I'm glad you do, but I just... They just look so... I don't know. You know what they remind me of? And they, they... It's not exactly the same thing at all, but my mom at home, s- at some point my mom was a, a huge Elvis fan. She had tickets to go see Elvis, like, the week he died, and she was devastated 'cause she never got to see it. Um, so

stuart 18:25

mom did too.

Jeremy 18:26

Oh, see, they could, they would've been there

stuart 18:27

We still have those tickets in a safety deposit box 'cause she never used them.

Jeremy 18:31

still has ours.

stuart 18:32

Mm-hmm

Jeremy 18:33

there was an Elvis head, uh

Dwayne 18:36

right there. Both of you should get them out and get them framed and have them on the wall. I think that would just be a fun little memento

Jeremy 18:42

Well, you know what? Let me reword this. My mom did have them. She did, 'cause I remember finding them in her... When they, they remodeled the house, and when they remodeled the house, I don't know if... Surely she kept them all. I-I'll ask her tonight. Um, and if she did, then I'll get them and then we'll frame them. but there was a ceramic or a porcelain head that was actually a whiskey decanter

stuart 19:04

Ooh, yeah, we had that too, except it was the whole body, and you popped his head off and there was whiskey in it

Jeremy 19:09

I'll see. I think this one was just a

Dwayne 19:10

Elvis or fat Elvis body?

stuart 19:12

It was skinny Elvis.

Jeremy 19:13

see,

stuart 19:13

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy 19:16

Um, but I want to think hers was a hea- just, just the head. And that, what doesn't make sense is they were opened. I don't know what opened. Um, but I just remember seeing the big head, and I do remember opening it up because I was like, "What's this taste like?" And I was "Oh, this is awful.", But that's what it reminds me of immediately, and I know that those are not two... the same thing. But that's where my mind goes is that god-awful Elvis head sitting there on the shelf.

Dwayne 19:39

they're really not, so thank you for that. Uh, you know, I posted something a while back and it was of our living room or something. I don't know why, why I was doing it. Probably just look at me, look at me, look at me. But it was a social media post and, Michael Strawn, a, a

stuart 19:53

Mm.

Dwayne 19:54

who I don't think maybe has the best taste in the world anyway, But he, his comment was how, um, beautifully cluttered, curated this room is. I was like, "Yeah. Yeah. not a dig. Thank you." It is cluttered and curated. And that whole tacky thing, maybe that's what it is, is, is the maximisms of traditional things and your granny's attic and all this collection. And look, we, we, our house looks like granny's parlor threw up, and it's been that way since 1983, and I love it. And things come and go, and trends g- come and go, and w- we're, we're, we're back on trend again

Jeremy 20:35

You know, listen, we've been in the house. I don't think that it's that grainy. You, you say that, but I don't think that you've got that much stuff. I mean, there's th- like that little cabinet. Maybe I don't see where the rest of the stuff is. I don't know, but I, it's usually pretty

Dwayne 20:46

look, you struggle if you wanna bring one thing into the house, you gotta get rid of three things.

Jeremy 20:51

Yeah. All right. You know, we just had, uh, our neighborhood yard sale at the, the beginning of the month, and we weren't really prepared. We were usually not here when it happens. Um, and so we were here and I'm like, "Jeremy, we've got to participate in this. Like, I know we've got some stuff." He's like, "We don't have anything." I'm like, "Yeah, we can... You know, we'll find stuff."

Dwayne 21:09

Why did you feel compelled to ha- or because you were the gaybers and people judge you?

Jeremy 21:15

No.

Dwayne 21:15

that why? Is that why you feel

Jeremy 21:16

No, I knew that we, I knew that we had some things. I had light fixtures that I had bought for a customer to use in their house that we didn't use that I bought. I found the receipt, it was still in the bag from 2015, that were in the closet. And I was like, "I just, I know there's stuff. I, I just know that there's some things." And he's like, "Well, there's not that much. I mean, I know we can find some stuff." So we went around the house and found some stuff. But I did find myself really struggling because when I walked, like walked around the house, what I have, I still love. So,

Dwayne 21:44

That's

Jeremy 21:45

thought so. But I mean, we had tables that we were able to put outside that were, had stuff on it, and some of them were like big boxes that we'd use for storage and, nice boxes. But, listen, we were t- it started at 8:00, and we were packed up and done at 11:00

Dwayne 22:00

How much you make?

Jeremy 22:01

Uh, I am not gonna say, but we did well. Um, I, I'm n-

Dwayne 22:06

tell me?

Jeremy 22:06

I w- There's a reason-

stuart 22:07

Because his neighbors didn't do so good

Dwayne 22:10

Oh.

Jeremy 22:11

know someone else who also had a yard sale on that day that not, did not go so well. So I'm just not putting that number out there because I don't want them to feel bad Mm-hmm.

Dwayne 22:19

I'm not moving forward with the podcast till you say

Jeremy 22:21

Well, just sit right there. It's fine. Stuart, Stuart and I can handle this. right, move o-

Dwayne 22:26

stop.

Jeremy 22:26

move on to the next

Dwayne 22:27

Yeah.

stuart 22:28

Okay, the next one. Now, when they related this to tacky, they were relating it to large, uh, excuse me

Dwayne 22:43

What's going on?

Jeremy 22:44

Somebody

stuart 22:44

Marty G. I'm Marty.

Jeremy 22:46

walked in the office and turned the

stuart 22:47

Turn the light on, it's like, Uh, thank you.

Dwayne 22:51

Thank you

stuart 22:52

Ugh, I just forgot the guy's name. Thomas Kinkade In this category is over-scaled landscape art, as big as sofas. Eh, uh-huh. But then they just grouped landscape art all into one lump, and I don't agree with that.

Dwayne 23:01

Yeah, that is tacky

Jeremy 23:08

Well, that's, well, that's foolish. Yeah,

stuart 23:10

It is foolish because anytime we get a good, decent landscape in, in the store, it is gone in 24 hours.

Jeremy 23:16

Yeah

stuart 23:16

'cause people are still looking for that thing. But I guess they hearkened it back to how a Thomas Kinkade or a Bob Ross was very overly painted and not, I guess, a modern landscape, so to speak

Jeremy 23:34

Well,

Dwayne 23:34

it.

Jeremy 23:35

I mean

Dwayne 23:35

had his stupid houses with, he was called the painter of light, and just tacky. It was tacky from day one, it was tacky the day he died.

Jeremy 23:43

Yeah.

Dwayne 23:43

tacky.

Jeremy 23:44

my mama loved it. Lord

stuart 23:46

Mm-hmm.

Dwayne 23:46

a, you have a gallery in Gatlinburg, you ta- you tacky.

Jeremy 23:49

by the way is still there. Um, well, I act-

Dwayne 23:52

ki-

Jeremy 23:52

hold on.

stuart 23:53

it really there?

Jeremy 23:54

me pause. I don't know about the one in Gatlinburg. We, when we were just in Pigeon Forge a few weeks ago, I did, I did see there was a Thomas Kinkade place in Pigeon Forge. I don't know about the one that was down in Gatlinburg

Dwayne 24:05

So I'm gonna take those words back. There are local artists in that area that are gifted and talented and beautiful. Uh, and I'm not gonna say that across the board that you can't find, pretty things there, but his stuff was horrific from day one. It was all about a dollar

Jeremy 24:22

Uh-huh

Dwayne 24:22

uh,

stuart 24:23

Oh yeah.

Dwayne 24:23

So

stuart 24:24

Yeah

Dwayne 24:24

selling art, he was selling, uh, gimmick. Gimmick is

Jeremy 24:29

And if you watch-- And I, listen, I'm so... If my mama listened to this, she'd be devastated, 'cause she j- you know, she just doesn't know, and what you don't know, you don't know. But I can't remember if we watched a documentary. I can't remember if it was what we watched, but it showed, like, the, the, the stories about that and the company and him and

stuart 24:48

A Bob Ross?

Jeremy 24:49

no, no, no,

stuart 24:50

Thomas Kinkade. Oh, I watched the Bob Ross one. That was,

Jeremy 24:53

Ross one's fascinating as well.

stuart 24:54

It i- it is fascinating

Jeremy 24:56

it paints a much different picture of the man versus who he was presented to the public to be. And, um, yeah, I think, I think people should look into it. But, um, yeah, I always say, "Mama..."

Dwayne 25:10

he was problematic?

Jeremy 25:12

problematic. That's probably a good way to say it. Um, allegedly. we'll say allegedly. Um,

stuart 25:18

Allegedly

Jeremy 25:20

Um, don't sue me, bastard. Um, and,

Dwayne 25:24

He's dead, dead,

Jeremy 25:25

but Mom, Mom, Lord, we would go to Gatlinburg or Pigeon Forge, and if we went to Gatlinburg, Mom would always wanna go to that little place 'cause she'd wanna go look and see, and she's always dream of buying one of those prints. And I, I don't remember if this is accurate or not, but what I remember it being was like $350 for, you know, not a huge piece, but just like a okay, you know, size piece, and it was

stuart 25:45

In a, in a mahogany frame.

Jeremy 25:47

was a damn print

stuart 25:50

Yeah

Jeremy 25:51

Mm-hmm. So,

Dwayne 25:52

thank

Jeremy 25:52

f- uh, foolish. I love a landscape. I have a-- I get in trouble because I like so many of them. I love landscapes

Dwayne 26:00

You, the non-tacky ones

stuart 26:02

The non-techie

Jeremy 26:03

you know what? Even like the small, like, so were, were they just saying like the large ones or are they talking about like

stuart 26:08

They were talking sofa-sized paintings

Dwayne 26:13

I can kind of get that. I can

stuart 26:15

Mm-hmm.

Jeremy 26:15

I guess it depends on,

Dwayne 26:16

like

Jeremy 26:16

on the scene. I, I tend to like the smaller ones. I would say it depends on how it's painted and what the subject is. So, 'cause I, 'cause p- and I say this because in our living room, I am, When we were on vacation one time there was a scene that we saw in Scotland that it was just, this day, it won't shake me, and it's actually the, the, the background on my phone, and I want to find a painting of that to go into the, uh, living room above the sofa 'cause I think it'd be beautiful. Um, but of course, there's a specific style and all those kind of things. So I don't want like a century or... And listen, if you're a real

stuart 26:54

Oh.

Jeremy 26:55

specialist person, look, I don't, I don't know. I don't know the styles. I just don't want something super realistic

stuart 27:02

Um, this is gonna, uh, revert back to Dwayne's wedding weekend. So, and painting. So Liz Ware was there painting. When is that gonna be complete? 'Cause I'm excited to see what she was painting

Jeremy 27:16

And what did, what was she trying to paint? 'Cause she couldn't have done anything in the time that we were

Dwayne 27:19

Well, what I saw was she captured, uh,

stuart 27:21

If, if

Dwayne 27:22

uh,

stuart 27:22

trying to paint that ceremony and she didn't get her paint open and everything, we were done.

Dwayne 27:26

Well, she had it sketched. Uh, I really don't know what she's gonna end up catch- capturing, but the one she was doing at the ceremony... So it's a local artist and, a dear friend, and I asked her to, paint a picture to capture the moment of the wedding. And the only, the only, guidance I gave her was I said, "Just capture a moment. You're, floating above. You've taken a visual moment of them dancing, eating cake, talking to people at the ceremony, whatever you want. Whatever moment ends up catching you at the time that you, you feel like encapsulates the wedding." So I don't know what's gonna, what we're actually gonna get., I- and I said to h- I don't really want to, to have faces, 'cause faces are too hard to do. I just want it to be somewhat impressionistic, you know, just... And that's her vibe anyway, anyway,

stuart 28:19

Right

Dwayne 28:20

i- in a way. Uh, but what she was capturing at the minute was them literally s- uh, standing with Ian at the ceremony out in the field, uh, saying, "I do." So I'm not sure if that's, that's what she was doing just as a, um, a rendering for people to s- see what she was doing at the wedding to be interactive, and that's what we get, or we get something else. So I kinda don't know really,

stuart 28:43

Hmm. Okay

Dwayne 28:44

okay

Jeremy 28:44

yeah, I'm also excited to see it 'cause she's such a talented, painter, and I love to see her there. And again, not to go back into the wedding, but that's another con- a continuation of the people woven into your wedding that were really parts of your life, not just people you just hired or called to come in, so

Dwayne 29:00

that was a purposeful deci-- I mean, there was... I always say, you do things for layers. I wanted her to be at the wedding for people to s- it being painted and go, "Oh, that's kinda fun. That's kinda cool. They're, they're painting a picture of the wedding." You know, that's a, a fun interactive moment. But on top of that, I have some pieces, of her in my house, and I try to use her whenever I can for clients' houses, and she's lovely, and I wanted her to be at that wedding and to have something of hers that the kids would have forever. So what we'll do is, you know, we'll get it and have it framed and give it to them as a wedding gift is what's, what the end result is. This is for them, not for us. It's a wedding gift for them. so there you go. But yeah, it, the, also all, lots of beautiful layers in, in, in her involvement there. You may have not picked up on this, but the, the tie that Lucas wore, she hand-painted the flowers that's in the bouquet, on his tie. 'Cause

Jeremy 30:00

did not say

stuart 30:01

Huh. Yeah, I didn't either

Dwayne 30:03

he, he initially wanted a tie that was embroidered. Well, to pull that off and very, very, very expensive, but took two months to get done. It could happen. And I said, "What if I get Liz to paint the, your tie with the flowers?" And he was down with that, and she, again, knocked it out of the park. Again, that beautiful... So he'll have this tie forever, right? And it'll be part of his wedding, but he has something that's very special that she created and unique. So again, another interesting layer.

Jeremy 30:30

Probably won't have it forever in that way because Chloe will probably take it and make it into like a tube top or she'll tie some onto a drapery or something, make something real hippie. But, you know, whatever, whatever,

Dwayne 30:39

you go.

Jeremy 30:40

whatever. it. Well, just make sure that you don't frame it into a g- a, a large gilded frame 'cause then evidently

stuart 30:46

Right.

Jeremy 30:47

compared to

stuart 30:47

And put it, and put it next to that skirted chair with the ceramic dog.

Dwayne 30:51

Excuse me. Don't wanna be tacky now.

Jeremy 30:53

us doing the Lord's work, keeping people away from the tacky... Was that it? Was that all that they had to

stuart 30:57

That was it. Those were the four things

Jeremy 30:59

I mean,

Dwayne 31:00

of tacky.

Jeremy 31:00

well, I,

Dwayne 31:01

so tacky

Jeremy 31:02

I, people are fools. That's

stuart 31:05

are

Jeremy 31:05

down to. They

stuart 31:06

stupid

Jeremy 31:06

come write for them

Dwayne 31:07

down to, all these articles that you read, it's almost like what not to do.

Jeremy 31:11

yeah.

stuart 31:12

Right, right

Dwayne 31:13

people to write these articles? And like, do they just do it just to stir the pot and just drop a little, ugly bomb and just to get people going? Because now I'm just like, "This dumb." Who wrote this?

stuart 31:22

It's for people who shop at IKEA

Dwayne 31:25

Oh, well, okay. Okay. I get it

Jeremy 31:30

Well, guys, thanks for listening today. We will be back next week with another new podcast. All of our links and everything is down in the show notes below. And until next week, have a good one, and we'll see you then.

stuart 31:41

All right, bye