S3:S7 Function WITH Design

Today, we're having a little bit of an intervention. Because somewhere along the line, we all started designing homes like we were preparing for a magazine shoot instead of, you know, living in them. Trying to curate a Pinterest board and then curating a home, and it is just a disaster waiting to happen. I personally even realized I did the same thing in my closet. You'll hear me talk about it in the podcast. The truth is, we get so caught up in inspiration photos that we stop asking the most important question: Does this space actually function for my life? Is it going to make my life easier? Because if your kitchen is beautiful but impossible to cook in, or your entryway looks amazing but has nowhere for shoes, bags, or keys, eventually the space starts working against you, and you're going to hate that space. So today, we are talking about why function matters more than perfection, how to zoom out and design for real life, and why the best homes aren't the ones that photograph the best. They're the ones that make everyday life easier.

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Welcome back to The Boys. Today, we're having a little bit of an intervention. Because somewhere along the line, we all started designing homes like we were preparing for a magazine shoot instead of, you know, living in them. Trying to curate a Pinterest board and then curating a home, and it is just a disaster waiting to happen. I personally even realized I did the same thing in my closet. You'll hear me talk about it in the podcast. The truth is, we get so caught up in inspiration photos that we stop asking the most important question: Does this space actually function for my life? Is it going to make my life easier? Because if your kitchen is beautiful but impossible to cook in, or your entryway looks amazing but has nowhere for shoes, bags, or keys, eventually the space starts working against you, and you're going to hate that space. So today, we are talking about why function matters more than perfection, how to zoom out and design for real life, and why the best homes aren't the ones that photograph the best. They're the ones that make everyday life easier. Let's get to it

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 2:08

we don't have to worry about Mabel today'cause Jeremy's working from home today, so she is with him at this moment.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 2:14

Oh, okay.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 2:15

What he's referencing is before we even started taping, you know, this damn cat of his Paul and GNA and chewing and such a distraction. So I started hitting the microphone like my cute, like the cat. But apparently not.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 2:29

no,

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 2:29

No. No. Okay. Well let tell you something about the podcast.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 2:33

today.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 2:35

Well. You're gonna hear it and you're gonna love me more than you ever have. So there you go. Because let's see, yesterday one of our super fans shout out Ginger, uh, texting about doing something and, she was talking about listening to the podcast and just, I don't know which one it was, but she loved it and just. Literally out laughed, just hilarious. So as I was pulling into the parking lot, I got another text from one of our, many listeners of seven people. And, Amy has referenced and I'm like, oh God, I don't know what I've said. Or somebody said, uh, Hugh Hefner of your compound. Ha ha. On my way to see my son driving down to Alabama and enjoying listening to you all. Wondering what I'm laughing as I drop by. So, listening to the podcast, giving joy. So what was the reference about Hugh Hefner's? You may know because I don't listen to this crap after we do it.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 3:30

me and my robe.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 3:31

yeah, I think that, I think

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 3:32

Oh, okay. Got it.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 3:34

Yeah.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 3:35

Yeah.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 3:35

I was like, I don't know what that means. Anyway, we got two of our valuable, many, many 12 listeners listening to us, and I know about it.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 3:43

I am so thrilled that we are bringing some joy in this crazy time to somebody somewhere. Well, today what I wanted to bring up was. It was the, the result of two things happening. One was our sweet, toy who's back in the floral department who, does so much. She mentioned that she had gone to this red carpet, or, her, her son does like behind the scenes video recording for movies and things like that. And there was a, uh, film and he had done the behind the scenes and they, they, they, it was part of

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 4:16

of the,

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 4:16

the preview of it downtown at the theater. part of

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 4:21

the.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 4:22

the, role of it was promoting Kentucky for movie production. And Dwayne, I know you have absolutely no clue what we're gonna talk about today, but you'll see how I get there when I get there, when I get there.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 4:32

I'm listening, I'm listening.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 4:33

and, um,'cause I was supposed to text you last night and then you know, it, life happens. But so what she was talking about was that people, has been really trying to promote itself for TV and film production because we've got such a, a beautiful landscape and there's such a wide range of, Places where you can do so, you can be, so what she was saying was they did a little promotional video that had like scenes that were taken at Shakertown and people were in different kinds of costumes and it totally felt, felt like you were in, in Northern Ireland or Scotland or different places. And then there were scenes shot at, um, the horse park that had looked complete and it was just like all around the world. It was like at different time periods where, you know, you get the right costumes, you get the right actors, you get, you know, the scenes, you can make it anything look like it. And yeah, just maybe remember, you know that it, oh, yeah. When you see through the, through the film or through a picture through Instagram or however, whatever you're looking at, it's only part of the picture. Right. You don't get the, the big, thing because last week they were filming a movie downtown. Uh. Uh, that's allegedly taking place in New York. So they had like faux subway, signs and railings. Like you're walking into the subway down downtown on Main Street. Um, and I thought it was just very fascinating that that was there.'cause it's like, you know, you get the right angle, it makes it look like that. So pair that with, uh, had gone back to a client's house this weekend and we were trying to finish up some things and rework some things For the way that their living. And I said, I said, okay. I know how your life works then. How does your life work? Now, like, how do you need this space to work? And she just kinda looked at me like, what do you mean? And I'm like, well, I need to know how this needs, like what do you use the space for, right? Like, do you actually use this? And she's like, well, I don't know about that. I just want it to be pretty. I thought, oh no. Like we've got, like you, you, we, we wanna make sure that when you do a, a space that you're doing it with function number one, right? And. you're gonna actually use it and not just for it to be the Instagram pretty, just not to be seen from that one perspective. And it was going in, trying to think about how you use function while designing the home or designing the space, because I saw, there was a really great quote that I saw and it said the best homes aren't the ones that look perfect. They're the ones that make your everyday life more comfortable. Beautiful and eatsy. And I thought that is a very accurate statement of like how I know all three of us try to approach it, but sometimes when we get. Wanting to create that beautiful home and that we can share on Instagram or just have friends come over. You kind of can get lost in that. And so that's what I really wanted to talk about today.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 7:13

I love it every, every layer of that,

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 7:16

Does it make sense?

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 7:16

and it's,

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 7:17

Convoluted

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 7:18

yeah, I do. Well, the, the thing that comes to mind is, um, being comfortable in your own skin.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 7:25

Mm-hmm.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 7:26

Right, and that means first, um, liking who you are, but then how does that relate to your house? What means if you are always striving for perfection, like with your face, wrong answer, right? If you're striving for perfection, for your wrinkles are good, right? Wrinkles are good. If you're striving for perfection.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 7:50

Botox?

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 7:52

I am not, you are gorgeous. If anything, you are a vixen. You are a vixen. Um, but I feel like a house should have wrinkles. Right? I want it polished and clean, but if it's not finished or if there's too many things sending around in the kitchen and there's olive oil and there's something over there, I don't care at this point, right? I don't care that, um, we just actually randomly, had, a guest over last night for a dinner, and he was there because, uh, the wedding, uh, the, the, the doom of the wedding is coming. And I'm trying to get the house all pretty and polished up and again, letting go of perfection. But we're gonna get the columns paint. So this is Aaron, the painter, right?

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 8:36

Mm-hmm.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 8:37

It goes back to the story I've said before. Um, I used to, we all, we all used to go to people's houses and decorate for Christmas, for example, right? And we would leave work and go to somebody's house and be there at 11, 12 o'clock at night, whatever it was for hours, right? And it's. Wonderful experience, but many times I know I would go and I have not had dinner

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 8:58

Mm-hmm.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 9:00

you know, people wouldn't think about it. They're not being unkind, they just wouldn't think about it. They're just, they're happy that you're there to get their house decorated. Meanwhile, I'm like two hours into it, oh God, I'm hungry I got feed this fat boy, but no food. Right? So I'm always very conscious of, again. In the world that I grew up in Appalachia, you don't have a lot of money, but you have food to offer you. You know, food is a love language for me because of that culture. And so if you're walking into my house, I'm just gonna try to feed you something. I'm gonna, at the very least, you're gonna get a water bottle, right? I'm gonna give you something. And so when Aaron was coming last night, I knew it was gonna be around the six o'clock, and I know. Um, his wife is, uh, a, a nurse that works at nighttime and they have a, a, a newborn baby, you know, about a year old, roughly. And I was like, I bet this boy doesn't get a lot of home cooked meals, right? Because of their life and how busy. And I thought, you know what? I can grill out. And so when he came, I was like, will you break bread with us? Will you have food with us? Will you eat with us? He's there to work. He's there to, you know, look at what to paint and do that. But it's also, I know that, uh, you know, you should share what you have. So the point of all that is the kitchen wasn't perfect and everything wasn't ready, and everything wasn't put away. Probably 10 years ago, I would've been a little more angst about that, but at this point, I'm comfortable in my bald head and my dad bought, and I'm comfortable in the house. And if it's not perfect, right? That makes sense. That makes sense, doesn't it?

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 10:31

Yeah. Yeah.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 10:32

Yeah.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 10:33

The plates are setting on the counter, and here's some napkins. Oh, I forgot to get something for you to drink. You, Hey, I'm gotta go back in the house for a minute. You wanna get you something outta the refrigerator. That's how entertaining should be for me, right? There's, there's things that are formal to set, but if you're really just having somebody in, Hey, whatever you need to do, go get out the refrigerator. Go do it.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 10:53

Right.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 10:54

you know, I am even guilty of what we're talking about today as far as our, on our primary floor, we, we took one of the bedrooms and converted it. Into our closet for the primary. And when we originally did it, like there were, you know, built-ins and we have an island in the middle, and I wanted there to be pretty little moments. You see all the little, the, the, the beautiful closets that are, that are, you know, in, in, on Pinterest or whatever. And you, you know, we were doing it way on a budget. You know, our cabinets are IKEA cabinets, and. So I, there was some shelves that we had that we would display and whatever. Well, our closet, ever since we've moved into this house, even though it's big and we've got a room and we have the island that we can fold laundry on, and you know, all the, it has been a disaster. And I have to say it's always been me. It has never been my husband, his side is always really neat, but my side was always a bloody, I mean, just, I mean, I am my father's son. I take it off, it'll kinda lay like it. It can be like that. Or if I get it out of the dryer or I, you know, I just wore it for an hour and I know I'm gonna wear it again. Like, you know, it may not get to where it was supposed to go. And so you, the truth is the truth. God bless my husband. Well, um. Recently since I, have lost some weight. I, I went shopping, I bought some new clothes and there was a bunch of clothes I was needing to get rid of. And I thought, you know, now is the time that I need to try to reorganize my side of the closet to try to do it. And so what I ended up doing was I took out the pretty shelves. I took out the, the, the nice little display spaces I had that, that weren't functional, that they were just pretty, I got a couple of extra, racks to put my shoes on. And this is now, now listen, we're only going in like a month on this. So, you know, uh, it's, it's not like it's a lifetime, but ever since I did that, the closet has been perfect it's because the way that I've set it up that time was more focused on function and how I lived and how I needed how this work. uh, Jeremy, when we, he walked in after I got, and he goes, never seen the closet like this ever. I can't believe it. And I was like, well, you know, it's easy to set it up, but to try again, to try to again, to keep it, keep it up right in, in your busy life. And, um, so yeah, so even I did that. I just wanted to have a

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 13:11

I love it.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 13:12

And now I love it. Just, I love it even more, even though I don't have a little pretty display shelf because it actually works. I'm gonna walk in, it looks nice.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 13:18

Mm-hmm.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 13:19

So, you know, do you have those places in the, in your house where you might have done, or, or have you gotten this all right from the get go?

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 13:25

My

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 13:26

Because

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 13:26

perfect.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 13:27

space too. Yeah.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 13:28

No, my house is perfect. No, no it is not. Uh, and I think the one thing that I really, really, um, focus on actually are, are the bathrooms because, you know, I have a daughter his stepson. They have their own bathrooms. Okay, that's great. That's, that's a good thing. However, both of them to use the hall bathroom and not their own, which is kind of drives me crazy

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 14:05

Yeah, with me too

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 14:06

know, both of them have toothpaste in there and toothbrushes and you know, one has deodorant and they have hairbrushes and all the things in the hall bathroom, which is the guest bathroom. And I have said, I was like, you children have

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 14:20

have your own

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 14:21

bathrooms, so what

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 14:23

what do we,

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 14:24

to do?

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 14:25

I don't remember JJs, but I know Ally's bathroom is a nice, cute little bathroom up there.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 14:29

there. It is.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 14:31

Taj Mahal, Taj Mahal.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 14:33

Well in J's, bathroom is the old master, so

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 14:36

It's

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 14:37

still a

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 14:37

beautiful too.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 14:38

Yeah. Yeah.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 14:38

very nice.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 14:40

That's right.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 14:40

Yeah. These kids are not slumming it.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 14:42

no, I'm like, what do we need to do? And both of them said, well, we just like getting ready with you all.'cause you guys stand in the kitchen every morning and to talk.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 14:56

Oh God. Go away. I know

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 14:59

I know.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 15:00

Mm-hmm.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 15:01

I'm reminded every day why I don't want children.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 15:03

like, ah. I was like, do I need to have my coffee in your bathroom? So you'll use it?

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 15:09

Oh.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 15:09

know, but I, I guess that is their, that's their comfort zone. So it's like, well, I just gotta give it up and just make sure the guest bathroom is clean when people come over and there's no spit toothpaste in the sink, you know?

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 15:23

And for, for a person whose life has changed and the kids are moving on in my world. You know what, um, came to mind one day, you'll, you'll miss that toothbrush in there.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 15:36

Mm

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 15:36

Yeah, I know.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 15:38

Lord, we're so close to this wedding. I can see it in his eyes. Lord, don't push him

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 15:41

Oh my god.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 15:42

the edge.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 15:43

Well, no, no, no, no. Well, actually I was gonna, uh, I didn't know what we were talking about today. I wanted, I wanted to do a podcast about, um, mothers and grandmothers and moments and stuff. So after we do this, and I'll tell you my little pitch, my idea, I think it can be a sweet one. So randomly I, this ties into what stuart just said, that I went to a house yesterday morning and uh, it's a mom who works from home and has a crazy career and she has three young children and really. Big, beautiful back porch with an outdoor fireplace and a TV over it and a teak table. Sounds all good, doesn't it?

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 16:20

Mm-hmm.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 16:20

Sounds really good. But on the table was a Nerf ball and some chalk written on the, on the sidewalk, and the bicycles are laying in the yard. And she said, I just want this to be beautiful. And she said, look at all this. Look at all this. And I was like, yeah. And pivoted back to, and I said, and this is. True. I was out in my yard the night before, not two nights ago, and I was walking around and again, I'm trying to get this yard ready for the wedding and fertilizer and green and beautiful, and I looked at it and I thought, Hmm, no soccer ball.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 16:56

Hmm.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 16:56

Lord, he is teetering. Bless his heart.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 16:59

on

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 16:59

look, come on. I'm look.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 17:01

I get it. It's,

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 17:02

you're right.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 17:03

it's a major life change, right?

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 17:05

Well, it's not, I'm not even talking about me. It's about all of us. Right. And it's, it's this, the, it's not me really, honestly. It's about what, um, the tool that I used at that minute to tell that client yesterday and to say to Stuart. Uh, the soccer ball won't always be there, right?

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 17:26

Yep.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 17:27

right.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 17:28

the, the tooth brush won't always be there. So I said to her, I said, I'm gonna make it beautiful, but you'll want the bicycle one day. And I said, so what I'm gonna say to you is, do you have tools built into the playground or in the garage where they can put their stuff right. And if you don't have that, just like what you just did for yourself, Jeremy,

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 17:49

Mm-hmm.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 17:50

had to reimagine, give yourself tools to be organized, right? So if you want to be organized, you have to give the tools to do that with, and that's what led to the conversation. I literally can make this as beautiful as it needs to be and, and perfect. But don't worry about it if there's some things laying around, by the way. But if you want more of it to go away than not, you have to retrain yourself to retrain your kids, to retrain, to make this a beautiful setting. But again, I. Don't worry about it if the soccer ball's laying out, basically all that. So I did two things at once, right? I'm gonna give you tools to help you make it a beautiful oasis for you because you are at home, you see it every day. It's a mess to you and you hate it. You want it beautiful and you wanna entertain. But also realize if it's not perfect, if it has a wrinkle, that's okay too. Right? It's all of that. It needs to be all of it at one time. It needs to be all of it at one time. Yeah.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 18:47

Yeah. So if there's a place where you drop your stuff every time you walk in the door, that's where you need something to help make it more functional, right?

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 18:53

Right.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 18:54

Yeah.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 18:55

that you've got that's not, that nobody ever sits in, are something's wrong. It, it's uncomfortable, it's not in the right place. Like, you know what I'm, you know what I'm saying? Like, if there's things that aren't there or if you're having, you feel like having to walk around furniture, things are always in the way and it's not conducive to how you live, let's reevaluate that and make it more functional for you.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 19:13

Mm-hmm. Did

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 19:14

aren't.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 19:14

your client get it yesterday when you asked her how to live in this space?'cause I love that pushback to her.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 19:21

They. Yes and no. And, uh, the no, yes, no, they understood it. The, the, the, the no part was that they don't necessarily live in this space as much as they, as they think that they might. you know, the husband's concern was, well, if we finish this space, I don't know if we're gonna use it. Um, and what I, I, I told them, I said, well, do you live in the rest of the house that we've done? He said yes, and I said, well, I really believe that's because we made it work and function for what you need. If you've got a main entertaining area that's on the main floor and then you've got another one in the basement, you can't use both of them at the same time unless you've got the need to, right? Unless you've got company coming over and you're all gonna watch the ball game or a movie, or you've got kids coming over and you know, those kinds of things. I can't tell you that it's gonna make you go downstairs and use it. You probably will.'cause it'll be new and fresh and you'll like it for a while. But the bigger purpose is when you do need it. When you do need that to function, you are going to use it, which they currently weren't.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 20:24

This was how it was posed to me a couple years ago. And it was about the same, uh, situation. And he, the husband pushed back and he said, well, and he literally said, can you guarantee that we'll use this? And I'm like, no, no, I'm not gonna do that and that's not my job. And I said, but what I, right, right. That's not my job. My job. Well, Bubba, uh, well, uh, I said my pushback was, um, I said. You have this area. I said, if you allow me to do it, what I can do is give you the hope that this will be a space that you'll use. Right? If you don't give me the opportunity to create something beautiful and pretty for you, it will never be used. I can't guarantee it. But if we don't do anything, there is not even the hope that you'll use it.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 21:11

Yeah.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 21:11

how I said it.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 21:12

You

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 21:13

And

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 21:13

a.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 21:13

we did it and they used it. And what, what, actually, what it was, it was their formal dining room that they never used.'cause they have a massive kitchen in their lifestyle. So we actually turned it into his bourbon room slash I put a round table with, uh, four chairs around it so they could have intimate dining, but the kids play checkers. They're gonna play cards in there. But then they ac so I actually made it become two for the price of one, and it became his world and he lives in there. Right before it was this white wainscot butter yellow faux painted dining room, and now it's charcoal and grass cloth and leathered, uh,

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 21:55

Hmm.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 21:55

Chesterfield's Uhhuh gorgeous room with bourbon. And oh my, and, um, it, it was definitely a complete reimagine and, uh, he, but he heard me and he gave it hope and they used it.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 22:09

you know, even with our outdoor area, like I always try to remind clients when they, when they say, um, well we have that, but we don't use it well, is it set up correctly? And, and I always give this example, renovated our backyard a few years ago, of in, steps.'cause you know, it's a lot of money and it's a lot of stuff. but one of the things that we did. A grill and it was really important for me to have,'cause I do love to grill out. I'm not a great griller and I'll overcook whatever I cook, but I do still enjoy it. Right. And I've been through numerous grills. Um, and so when we did this out here, I wanted to have a nice place where I could go and it, it would be there. The problem is, it is too far away from our French doors going out, and I don't utilize it as much as I could. Because it's a little bit, and not that you, y'all know my backyard. It's not big, but it's just not right there. And if we would've laid it out a little bit differently, I know I would use it, right? So that's why I'm like, okay, let's think about why is it not working, why do not use it? And let's make that function actually make more sense.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 23:14

Well, let's, let's tell you, speaking of grilling, take a a, a wonderful red onion and you grill it and put it in some aluminum foil out there in a little olive oil. You know what happens to the red onion? They cook and they turn blue. They turned blue

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 23:31

huh?

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 23:31

Well, mine turned a purplely blue color. Yeah, I'm just telling you. And I was like, they tasted good, but like Lord have mercy. It looked like eating raw dead stuff. And I.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 23:42

well Lord

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 23:44

I've just life lessons, like those don't look very appetizing, but I get, I don't know what it did, but you all tell me if that happens to you all. Uh, if you cook because like they look like the biggest, worst meal, I guess. Like, you know, that shrimp that turns that weird blue color. That's what these onions look like last night.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 24:02

I don't think I know about the shrimp I me

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 24:05

What are you eating? I, I mean, I love

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 24:08

Huh.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 24:09

I

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 24:09

Maybe that explains it. Why I got sick at that restaurant. Once

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 24:13

be. It could be. Wow.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 24:17

shrimp is.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 24:20

Well, you know, this is along the same lines of when I hear people say, well, I've got pets, or I've got young ki like kids. I can't have anything. Like I can't do anything. And while there is tr, while there is a little bit of truth in that, right. I thank you, Dwayne. He's making you shaking at them. While there is truth in, I don't even wanna say that there's, I

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 24:38

There's

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 24:38

there is truth

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 24:39

You teach your children

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 24:40

children.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 24:41

the stuff you got

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 24:42

Well, there's that.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 24:43

and and understand that

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 24:46

That they're gonna, yes,

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 24:48

gonna be a mess. A dog is gonna get sick. It's just gonna happen. I mean, sometimes you shit yourself, but you don't make yourself not sit on the

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 24:57

Oh.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 24:59

Well, it's true. just happens.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 25:04

Um, so, okay, so with that in mind, God help us, um.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 25:09

know I'm gonna get somebody telling me about this one too.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 25:11

Uh, that you don't, you can't have, oh, I can't say it that way. You should not.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 25:18

have.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 25:18

if you're working on your space and you've got kids and you've got pets use, getting a clean, crisp light sofa is not the right move. Right.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 25:30

Well, no,

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 25:30

not using a performance fabric is not the right move. Right. We wanted to do a performance fabric. Uh, being opposed to slip covers is the wrong idea. Like if you've got, so that's what I mean, like, know what you're trying to live with, how you're trying to do, do you need to be able to wash it? Do you need it to be able to defend everything, including if your husband and or wife is a drunk and they spill all their wine all over the place? I mean, we

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 25:56

Oh my God.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 25:57

death, but she spills wine every fucking place She goes, we, it got to the point where we had to get her a sippy cup, so you know, hey, you do what you gotta do.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 26:10

That's

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 26:11

is they have made, uh, huge improvements on fabrics and so, uh, you, they're probably gonna be solid and, but you can, they're, they're pretty Cheeto proof anymore, so you can't have it. I'm with you. You know, I did a house a number of years ago and, uh, she was a, uh. Divorced or her children were grown, so she was a home alone kind of lady. And so we did a white sofa in the family room, uh, off white and performance fabric so she can have it, so they, it would've never got dirty whenever. You know? What I found out though is her children were afraid to sell on it, but I guess she was so mean to'em when they were kids. They were afraid to sit on it. I was like, no, you, you, you can sit on this and you can rub Cheetos on it. It's okay. So sometimes just because you have it should, should you do it right? Um, actually the house that I talked about doing the outside porch, I did the, the family room. Uh, well, it's people understand it's a house on Cochrane, which is these smaller houses in this little area where we live that are pretty, pretty tight little houses. But this actually is. Pretty decent sized house. But anyway, it doesn't have a formal living room and a family room and a den. It just has one den one family room. Right. So it's got to be pretty and function with three kids and a dog, the French Bulldog. Uh, and, uh, we pulled it off and, but I took her old sofa and actually had it recovered in a kind of blushy pink colored, velvet performance fabric. And it has, it has little. Pattern to it.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 27:41

Mm-hmm.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 27:42

uh, when I showed her this and I said, what do you think about having a great big pink couch? And she's like, I'm in. And she said, everybody's coming to that house and said, I don't think I, when you told me you were gonna have a pink couch, I don't think I'd like it. And you know, the picture that I ordered for her from the store? It's called queen for a day. Remember that picture? That's kind of flower? No. Anyway, it's this modern.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 28:06

but I just, because I remember her, what you were working on, but I didn't know the name.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 28:10

right. So it has pink in and it has blue and all it, it really is. Um, I stuart the little skinny lamp, uh, the little brass lamp from mm-hmm.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 28:18

Oh

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 28:19

it is

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 28:19

Oh, yeah.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 28:19

that they, I ordered six of them. That was her that where it took six or nine months. That was for that house. Right. So

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 28:25

okay.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 28:26

I finally got that room finished. Yeah. I finally got that room finished. Right. So you can have a pink couch.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 28:33

Yeah, of course you can.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 28:34

feel

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 28:34

Four pink doors.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 28:35

pink doors. Oh, that's right.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 28:37

can have pink doors too.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 28:39

Okay, you gotta tell the world what? That's the reference. Uh, I'm on the fence on this one. I'm like, I'm not sure. So tell'em what you've done.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 28:46

Wonderful,

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 28:49

Uh, in this

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 28:50

innovation

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 28:51

um, the front

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 28:54

front,

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 28:56

and it is a. 10 foot wide entrance and it is all pink. Of course it's glass on both sides and then one three foot door, but, and it's pink on the

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 29:06

inside.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 29:07

And then Ev Oh

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 29:10

Oh my God.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 29:11

Wow.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 29:13

I.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 29:14

Oh, there's that. Um,

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 29:20

God

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 29:22

and

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 29:22

and.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 29:22

is a 1955. So it's got the vibe. It could be real

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 29:28

You born.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 29:29

Hmm. Yeah. Two, two years later. Um, and every interior door is also pink.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 29:39

Oh, I don't think I realized that. Every indoor pan indoor, you know what? You told me that and I forgot that.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 29:44

interior door is pink.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 29:46

I love it. You know what? You're making this house for you. You're, you are doing this house for you. And I love that.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 29:51

Yeah.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 29:51

Now I, I, I think that the painter thought you'd lost your mind. Is that right? Did he question you?

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 29:56

went,

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 29:57

did.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 29:57

he's like, uh, front door pink.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 30:00

Is this the primer?

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 30:02

yeah. And he went, okay. And I said, all interior doors pink too. And he went inside the front door. I said, no. All interior doors. He went, oh, I don't think you know what you're doing. And I was like, yeah, all of them. And he did it. He painted them all.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 30:24

I love it. I love it. I can't wait to see this one.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 30:26

yeah, it's, it's, um, some quirks. It's interesting, but it's

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 30:32

and that's what is the homes are supposed to be though. They're supposed to be you. They're supposed to function for you. You're not supposed to be the other round. You're not supposed to function around the house, right?

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 30:41

R Right. And you know, and I, and I've said this before, I let, I let the house talk whether it's

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 30:48

Whether it's a

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 30:49

house or whoever, and, you know, our, our current home, um, it

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 30:56

client spoke for other.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 30:58

and I did it that way. this one is. Everything that I feel, so that's why

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 31:05

Oh,

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 31:06

this way out.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 31:07

Lord, my only

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 31:07

that just went deep.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 31:09

was this, if, if this house, if it was on LSD before you got in it, that's, you know, it's the only thing.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 31:14

Oh, it probably was. It was a hoarder. Lived in it for 20 years. Then it

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 31:21

Oh Lord.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 31:22

for five years and raccoons and snakes lived in it. So yeah.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 31:28

mm.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 31:28

Yeah, it was ready. It was ready to be refreshed

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 31:32

I love it. I love it.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 31:34

if

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 31:35

So if, if sewer's new house has quirky pink doors, is there something quirky about your house? I'm trying to think about mine. I don't, I don't think I've got quirky

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 31:46

no,

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 31:46

anything unexpected. No.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 31:48

uh, no, I don't think there's anything unexpected. I mean, it's a, one and a half story, uh, Cape Cod, or is it what they call story and a half? Yeah, it's a

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 31:57

Yeah. Yeah.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 31:58

story and a half Cape Cod with dormers. And so we have a shit ton of storage and there's no insulation, so there you go. That's just

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 32:07

He gets cold all the time. Right. I'd say

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 32:10

know.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 32:11

the, I don't know if it's a quirk, but I'll say I posted a picture of my house a number of months ago at this point, and one of our coworkers, uh, former coworkers, they said, uh oh, that's curated clutter. And at first I went that it was Michael Str who said that, by the way, Rob.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 32:29

Yeah.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 32:30

yeah, yeah,

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 32:30

You can see, right? You can see his personality coming through.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 32:32

yeah, yeah. Yeah.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 32:33

at first I was like, oh, that pinched just a little. And I looked at the picture and I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 32:41

Yeah.

dwayne_1_04-23-2026_091223 32:41

So if anything, the thing that I've continue to preach is edit, edit, edit. I don't have a good job editing because everything I have is collected and acquired and stories and memories and all that crap. And, uh, you know, I'm not willing to let it go yet. So there you go. So that if it's a quirk, it's like, oh God, there's a lot of stuff in here.

jeremy-guest737_1_04-23-2026_091224 33:06

Well, listeners, if you have a space that you need to reexamine, please think about how does that space need to work for you work that way backwards. And I think it will make your space or your home much work much better for you. That's all we want in life. well thank you as always for listening, and we will see you all next week. Bye.

stuart-host109_1_04-23-2026_091224 33:26

All right. Bye.