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S2:E15 JOY Dropper OG - Amber, Feral Mountain Princess
Today's episode is a joyful ride through the woods, the stage and straight to the heart of what it means to truly be yourself and be comfortable in your skin. We're sitting down with our friend Amber, who's lived a lot of lives from romping through the forest as a little girl to strutting across the pageant stage as a beauty queen to gracing our TV screens as a host, and now, well, she's best known to her friends as the Feral Mountain Princess. That's a true story.
Amber has the incredible way of finding herself in the wild, both literally and metaphorically. She's an avid hiker, a seeker of joy actually. She is the og. Joy dropper. She's where we learned the term, and someone who's learned to come home to herself by coming home to nature.
Our chat with her is full of laughter, surprising stories, and a beautiful reminder that you do not have to fit a mold to feel completely at peace with who you are. So grab a cozy drink or lace up your hiking boots, and let's enjoy this journey with the one and only Feral Mountain Princess.
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Today's episode is a joyful ride through the woods, the stage and straight to the heart of what it means to truly be yourself and be comfortable in your skin. We're sitting down with our friend Amber, who's lived a lot of lives from romping through the forest as a little girl to strutting across the pageant stage as a beauty queen to gracing our TV screens as a host, and now, well, she's. Best known to her friends as the feral mountain princess. That's a true story. Amber has the incredible way of finding herself in the wild, both literally and metaphorically. She's an avid hiker, a seeker of joy actually. She is the og. Joy dropper. She's where we learned the term, and someone who's learned to come home to herself by coming home to nature. Our chat with her is full of laughter, surprising stories, and a beautiful reminder that you do not have to fit a mold to feel completely at peace with who you are. So grab a cozy drink or lace up your hiking boots, and let's enjoy this journey with the one and only feral mountain Princess. Let's get to it.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Today we are chatting with the Joy Dropper original, the og. Bitch in the house, our friend Amber Kenoy, and uh, if you're local here, you may recognize her from, channel 27 or WKYT. She has had her face plastered all over the place, and she's very active and she has been very good to us and very kind to us over the years. but she's a wonderful person and so it was very important for us to chat with her because we think. all will get even more out of the conversation, than we realize, I think. so yeah. Dwayne, take it away. How about that? You can go from there.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:Okay,
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:So
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Start with this.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:question.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:Amber Kou, how
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:long have, uh,
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:we known each other at this point,
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Oh my word.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:five plus years.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Oh, it's probably longer than that. Yeah. This is
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:I
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:2025. We knew each other before COVID, so
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:oh,
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:probably say,
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:did, they did some videos, I
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:yeah, I'd say seven or eight years probably, at least.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:Yeah. Okay. Eight years.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:So the,
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:the,
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:so you've known her since My third husband
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:I'm glad you put the timeline in that.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:I don't know. So, I about this. I'll tell, I'll do my truth telling Amber when. Uh, I knew very little other than she's on tv, and somehow I understood that she came through the, the, the, the
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:the program of, uh.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:uh, miss Kentucky. Okay. Right.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:I
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:Then
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:had tip on my shoulders about
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:ladies who
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:were part of that program, right? That they were,
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:that they
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:they were shallow,
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:that it
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:it was all about their.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:appearances. Okay. Fast
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Forward
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:and meeting with Amber. came across in pretty quick fashion is that's not what she was about.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:and then
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:As it
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:it evolved, not
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:much
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:about what the.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:program is about, that I got to understand that it was for her and
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Many, many
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:ladies a tool as a
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:platform,
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:to
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:giving them a voice,
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:to
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:giving them an opportunity
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:and
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:to
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:highlight
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:both
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:External, but more
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:more importantly,
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:internal beauty, as hokey as that might sound to some of you.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:truthfully, that's.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:what I garnered within
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:just months of being around my
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:friend Amber.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:And how important,
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:and
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:how close, um,
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:the
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:pageant, uh,
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:Genre
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:is to
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:to
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:her. Is that, is that
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:that is.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:So when I said that, is that a.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:fair
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:thing
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:that you hear that people perceive, uh,
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:the
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:pageantry to be that kind of
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:shallow
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:thing in
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:In general. Yeah, because all they see is the, uh, you know, the outward facing aspect of it. They don't see all the interviews and all the preparation beforehand.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Have people not seen mis congeniality? It's one of my favorite movies. I mean, come on. It's not a beauty pageant, it's a scholarship or whatever. Anyway, I love that movie. Just feel like you just undermined everything.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:said.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:No, that was
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:No, because it's true
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:That was the
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:is
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:to the movie as well,
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:it was.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Bullock character thought it was just all about these, you know, over the top makeup queens, you know, worried, not worried about anything else. And then what she really found out were these were real, legitimate people who cared the over the top makeup queens.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:are queens, which are quickly going away, so that's a different story.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:I hate to
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Oh, they ain't ever going away. Mm-hmm. Nope. coach in some of those girls at the pageant.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:the That's right.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:See, it's true. It's true.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:uh, I'll start with, tell,
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Tell us your.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:uh, for those in our world that don't know where you originally are from, and how you got into pageantry then, then led to being a world class TV interview or podcast or extraordinaire
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Oh dear.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:And hiker.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Uh, thank you.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:hiker. Yeah.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Most importantly, um, so I'm from London, Kentucky originally, um, I never dreamed of doing pageants'cause honestly, I just never g given those assumptions that most, most people think about. I just never put myself into that category. But when I was in high school, there was the Miss North Laurel pageant and you had had a talent and I had always, you know, grown up singing all over the place, uh, through four H competitions, church. Parks, you name it. Um, so I was like, well, I can sing. So somebody entered me and um, yeah, that kind of started all of that. So I was always really geared towards the ones that had like some sort of talent competition.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:How old were you when you started?
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Uh, I was a freshman in high school, so,
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Well, at that time in my life, I didn't
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:So later,
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:at me, so
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:yeah.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:me on a stage.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:yeah. Well, I mean, I mean, you just think you just came from like middle school, those really, really awkward years where you're.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Right.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Going through all kinds of wonderful changes and you're like, what is going on with me? And then, yeah, throw you on a stage. So, but I grew up in like community theater and stuff, so being on a stage wasn't like really scary. And it kind of just kept going from there and everything. And then the Miss Kentucky Scholarship Organization was a great way to help pay for college. So I was on a full tuition academic scholarship, but had to be able to pay for all like the room and board books and everything like that. So that was a way for me to help pay for my college, But the main thing, the main thing, and I'll be honest, it's really, really easy in the pageant world to really lose sight of the bigger picture. Um, because the first year I had got some award, it's been, it's been a few years since then, so I can't remember everything. Um,
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:You mean you don't wear your tiaras daily?
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:no, no. I don't know. No,
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:I sure as shit would.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:I.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:no. I actually think I gave away all my tiaras to friends who had little girls. Um,
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:oh.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:so they could play and stuff, so, but like, so I think I went from like getting like a non finalist award to like second runner up and then I was in top 10 and then I fell outta top 10. Um, you know, and it's easy. Very, very easy. Just like anything in life to kind of have your whole identity racked up in something very, very quickly and lose sight of what the really, really. Big picture is, um, and it, and actually falling outta the top 10 after being in the top 10 and top five several times was probably the biggest blessing because, aw, look at.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:She was holding up, showing, uh, his little princess and, uh, doing her, her, uh, 6-year-old
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:going on 18.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:You said Tiara, she had three on last night, so
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Mm-hmm.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:of which were to her
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:But um.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Falling, falling out of the top 10 made me really, really take a look at like what I was doing. Was I becoming the best version of myself and a truer version of myself? Or was I trying to fit a mold? and when you realize that it's just five people's opinion. And those five people can have a, you know, like, like if you took a different group of five, people would probably pick a different winner. The goal shifted instead of trying to like be something that I thought was, what those people were looking for was just to be the absolute best version of myself. So regardless of what their opinion was, I could walk away holding my head up high and not so worried about that, and focus more on the relationships of the people that I was interacting with on that week. So.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:For you.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Well, I got back into the top five, so, I mean, well, I, I think, I think the, the vast majority of people in this world are looking for authenticity, right? Not fitting into this mold that everybody thinks that you need to be in. And sometimes that can be, you know, can be isolating because there might not be. The same people that are readily available that fit very well with you. But I tell my kids all the time and they're like, oh, people are weird, or he's weird. I'm like, everybody's weird. It's just being comfortable enough with yourself and being authentically you so you can attract the same type of people. Right. The same type of weird,
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yes,
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:There's people who think I'm weird because they go hiking all the time, you know?
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:People unite. Yes. Yeah.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:exactly. Like you'll find your people, stop trying to fit this mold. Be something you're not
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:just
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:true to.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:are. Be
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah,
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:are, be comfortable in your own
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:and I
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:think, oh gosh, what was it? So the last year I competed, they were doing onstage question in the top five, which is probably probably the worst aspect of the whole entire thing.'cause you don't know what they're gonna ask you. And I remember them asking me something about like one of my college memories or something like that. And the gist of the story was like. Finding your people where you can just truly be yourself. And I made a reference to this situation where I had people at my, um, apartment and there was a bowl of candy on, on the counter, and there was dumb dumbs and there were smarties and I made light. I was like, don't eat one one too many of the other. And they were just like, what? That's my type of humor. Like, you know, so I was like, and like there's probably several people who thought I probably lost the passion'cause of that question. I was like, I don't care.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:well be, yeah. Yeah.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:That was me being authentically.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:you win?
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:No, I didn't win. I got second.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:That's fine. That's fine.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:you know, growing up we were fascinated by toddlers and tiaras and, um, you know, it's the, the, the
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Oh my God.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:don't do this to your children. But there's so many positive things to it. But I, I, I, not that I meant to get all off on this whole, uh, pageant. Tangent, but I think it really was key and, and integral in you becoming who you are today. Right.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah,
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:know, we've, you've mentioned college twice and I always love to tell Amber this, that we were at col in college at the same time.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:I
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:were. Yeah,
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:do remember that.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:were, we, we went to the same
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:um, she had no clue who I
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:That's not true.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:who she was because she was very involved with sororities and was very photographed and very around because she was very active and I was the little gay boy in the corner going to class.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:I remembered you. I, I remember one of our first interactions. I was like, yeah, yeah, I think so.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah. So.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:look, Jeremy, you now have found your authentic you.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Oh yeah. Listen, it took me a while.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:box sometimes
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:But he would,
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah, pop right on out.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:You can't put me in no box.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:dancing. Queen found his voice. There you go.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:I love it. Yeah.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:yeah.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:okay, so how did you go from the pageant and then like. Into is, is that a natural like transition into the television? Like I don't know how that goes. How's that go?
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:I think at one point there was a lot of people who would major in.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:the only person that we knew, there were a few others that that similarly got involved. I
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Well, and my, my route into television was, is a little different because I didn't go to school for broadcasting. Mine was more communications. so actually in college, like I would prep whoever was the commencement speaker for the students, I would help prepare them for the delivery of their speech. Right. that happened several years and I was very comfortable with public speaking. And mediation and different things like that. Dealing with people, interviewing, and so forth, which stems a lot from the, the pageant side of things as well. But when I was getting ready to graduate the career path that I actually thought I was going into, which was like nonprofit, like community service type stuff, the funding fell through and I was like, oh, okay, great. What are we gonna do now? Like, wonderful. Um, and one of my college advisors was like, I think you should look at sales. And initially, of course, I had like the whole like used car salesman, like, you know. And I was like, what? I was like, really?
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Honda.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah. Yeah, I just, I was just, I wasn't very excited about it. But, um, I interviewed'cause I trusted them'cause they knew me very, very well. One of the good things about it, Eastern was like you knew a lot of your professors very, very, very well.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:They were
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:They were very involved in your life. So I interviewed for a couple different jobs, got a couple different job offers, went with the television side.'cause I thought that kind of played it more to what would be interesting to me at the time. And it naturally, so I was in sales and marketing, helping people like. Build campaigns for the, to build their business. But then it naturally fell into opportunities to do stuff on air, um, with the, with the clients that I have because they were so comfortable with me and they didn't wanna just like, work with some stranger, um, on that aspect of the business. So then I started doing that regularly for other people and then it just kind of kept evolving from there. Another station in the market recruited me, um, specifically for the sales and marketing, but also to host a show. Uh, because they were losing the host of that, and then again, it just kept evolving. So,
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Uh, well, you know, the overlying
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:sales.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:that I hear like woven through that was like, you know, you found yourself, you were authentic and you, you were just who you were, you were following what was interest to you. And then because that people were then again attracted to the authenticity and there's a trust there.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:yeah.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:And you're talking about your clients because I know like we're very. when I think of you, like, when you say something, I trust you because you are you, and I know you're gonna tell me the truth, right? And you're, you're we're gonna know either the good or the bad or figure out how we approach this or what's best. And I think that's so important for, someone who, to hear that who's maybe struggling, right? Like may not feel like they're getting their foot footing or they're not really sure how to. Handle, you know, whatever it is. Okay. Figure out, you know, go back to your core, go back to your center. It's, I always remember that one scene in like center stage, like there was a, a dancer and she was struggling in her, in her, um, choreographer was like, just go back and find your center. Go back to the
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:And she was very different than the typical ballerina that I.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:absolutely. Love that movie. See, it's of the generation,
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yes,
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:the generation.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:I.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:The other two are just.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:Do you have a clue what they're talking about? No clue.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Not a clue.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:they're talking about.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:I mean,
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:are bonding over some
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:twirl alone, twirl. Twirl alone.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Well, and so I understand this why you are the people that you work with. There is that trust that's there. Uh, just because again, authenticity, like what you said, people I think really do crave that. And that even plays true in our, in our social media, right? Like people, like to see like the pretty and the fluffed and all that, but they also love us being just a hot ass mess,
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Like, because that's just what we are.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:'cause most of us are,
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:all of us are. All of us.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Some of us like to pretend we're not, but
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:yeah. Well, I
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:most of us are.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:conversation with my niece yesterday because she was talking about doing something. She's like, well, I know what I'm doing. I was like, oh, baby. I was like, I remember I was 16 too. I remember, I thought I knew what I was doing. I was clueless. I was like, I still don't know what I'm doing at 44. Like but I'm trying.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:I can speak for as you age,
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Ah,
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:you realize is,
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:You
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:less truthfully. Right?
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:that is true.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:Stewart?
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:The,
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:everything
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:know I just learned it and now it's different.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:dunno.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:ever evolving. I don't care. Don't care. But I dunno.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:I don't know. And I'll just. What comes around to that thought process is, I do think as you, you do get older, you start to realize who's in your corner and what's important.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:will
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:I'll look at, I'm not dismissing you at all, so don't take this as a
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:a dismissal, but I
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:can look at my, and I,
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:I,
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:I've always said.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:this and I always wonder if, uh, Stewart cringes a little or he gets mad at me or likes it, but Stewart is a little harder to get to know, right? He's not the instant, Jeremy big over the top personality
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:I mean, I didn't really like Amber till last week.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:There you go. There you go. Well, if people,
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:So I.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:per, you know, people perceive
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:that
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:as, oh, he doesn't like
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:or that, don't really say Cole, but does, does he like me? I mean, this is a
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Common.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:thing,
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:And it's not that, I dunno if you're,
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:I
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:I won't get into it.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:too deep into it.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:I dunno if you're more guarded or that's just your personality. But the long story is,
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:reason I'm
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:say,
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:this reason is
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:I'm not trying to do analysis,
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:is
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:that the two of you have a common thread
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:this in.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:and you, you care for that person. You are
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:authentic
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:and you will do anything for that person. Sure. It has always been that for me. Right? Mm-hmm. And I feel like that's you is.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:when you work with a client, when you meet with somebody and you
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:You connect with them,
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:you will
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:go with that.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:you will do everything. You will
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Be created and use every tool.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:That is in your wheelhouse, to lift them up, to make them better. And I don't even say that, that you're necessarily doing it for a self-serving reason. I just think you're doing it because you believe in that person and that's what you wanna do for them. And that's how I see you and Stuart being the same, that if you're in their corner, your corner, his corner, they're gonna take care of you.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Mm.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Well, and at the end of the day, it's all about people.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Mm-hmm.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:right,
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Money is just a tool. I try to tell my kids that all the time. I mean, tools can be yielded for good. They can be yielded for bad, right? It's just a tool. I mean, at the end of the day, it's how you treat people, how you make people feel.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Amen.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:I mean, yeah, it can't be just about a paycheck. I mean, how horrible is that at the end of your life? Thinking about like, oh, well, I. That, that's all it was. I'm like, that's sad to me. There's got to be a greater purpose and for a lot of people it's, you know, like it's helping their businesses, but what they stand, you know, behind like the, the charities and what good they're able to do, even with your employees. I mean, I see how you all interact with your employees and it's, gosh, it's so fun.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Well, and it's funny'cause I brought up, I brought up hiking earlier and I know that's one of Amber's uh, I won't say hobby, I'll say, I'll say free time because it's your time.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Mm-hmm.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:I actually follow your hiking journeys secretly behind. Because I, I do, I mean, and I know I don't, I don't. Just like Dwayne said, I'm not, I don't talk a lot. I don't whatever joke a lot, but I follow you behind and that's how I've learned who you are. So, which I think is super cool, you know, because you're in different places, you're in different experiences, you're pointing out different things that me as a person enjoy. Even though we work with you on a different aspect,
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:that makes any sense at all.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Oh yeah.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:So
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:So,
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:you saying your team member?
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:I mean, I'm almost there.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:Oh my God. Good as it gets today. Amber, I
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:I will take it.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:Just take it. Just take it. Okay. So tell us,
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:How long have you been?
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:wt?
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:14 years?
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:Really? Wow. Yeah,
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Hmm,
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:mostly good.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Huh? What'd you say?
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:and mostly good.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:good,
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yes.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:mostly good.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:If not, I.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:I, I would say this, that they have a new head chief. I don't know what their, their technical, her name,
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:General manager. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:do know her
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:that,
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:well.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:yeah, that it sounds like there nothing against the person prior to, but, uh, feels like there might be a new, fun little energy getting ready to come into the station. Uh, is that fair?
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah. Oh absolutely. Yeah. She's bringing in a lot of new technology to make us a little bit more relevant to certain audiences, which I think is huge. So, and that's fun and exciting to see that change.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:so we've been there 14 years. What, what do you really do there?
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:my technical title. Um, senior media executive. So I'm working with businesses to help grow their businesses. So that could be television advertising, it could be all kinds of different things in the digital space.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:supposed to be doing here. Well, we need to get on it.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Oh dear.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:like I'm on. I feel like I'm on, she's got on us on TV every seven minutes,
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:I know.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:I'm not gonna complain. Right. Um,
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:audience loves you all.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:I, I the, the one, um, and I've told you this before and me because I tear wood names, but it's the heating Cooling company out Paris.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Oh, hover mechanic.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:I. You wrapped your arms around them like you did with us, and they heard you and they trusted you, and you've helped them and you've grown their business. I do give you, I mean, he's smart, right? And he's put things in into play. But I do think you are, uh, tweaking their marketing and how you approached him and made him and his people more personal, uh, really has been a very smart, smart approach to, uh, to growing his business. I don't know if he will give you that credit or if.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:No, I, I actually, I think I, I think he would, I, I think he would, even though I can't obviously take full credit for it, because a lot of it comes to the fact of who he is and what he stands for and just confidence. Yeah.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:He.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah. Because he's trying to break the stereotypes in that industry and, it's been a unique dialogue the whole time and stuff. So, but he also doesn't care to get goofy, right? Like, he doesn't care to like. Make fun of himself. Just, you know, because, well, that's him if you're around him very long. I mean, he's kind of got that personality too, and it's, it's great. It's a breath of fresh air. People who don't take themselves too seriously.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:Well, that goes back to the authenticity. And if you take yourself too seriously and you can't make fun of yourself, people read that and
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah,
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:we always go back to all of us, like, you were saying the same thing. We do not have it figured out.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:no.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:not have it figured out. And the more we, more we keep going, the less we have figured out. And
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:People.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:that and it's like,
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:I.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:it. If this with younger people. 20 somethings even to, to even my age right now that we've been in this cycle for the last, let's say 10 years of Facebook and posting and
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Looking.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:look at me, look what I did, look where I went. I had dinner on vacation and it just started becoming exhausting and it really was. I can't remember what the, the song was, but you was like, uh, you know, you're comparing yourself to each other. Um. I just really at the, at the beginning of the year, I was posting and I was posting jobs of design stuff, and I love what I do. I really do, and that's a blessing that a lot of people don't get. so I would be posting stuff and the posting the stuff was my joy to tell the story of what I was doing. And I also knew that I personally would gain something from it. And I knew that the story to gain something from it. But then it started evolving into I had to post something every night at six o'clock, then it started an. Dinner time and it was taking too long, or I was, whatever it is, and at the end of the year, I just said, you know what, I, I have no interest in doing it right now, even though it may personally have an impact on the store, and it may have a personal impact on me having business. I had to do it for my own psyche. I, because I was. For the last number of years because of the joy it brought to me. And it wasn't necessarily, look at me, look at me, look at me. It really was, look at me getting to have fun that I've helped other people give their joy, right? But then it started turning into, look at me because I want something from you. then it become, it became less authentic, and that's when I had to hear my voice and say. I have the luxury or not luxury, I'm just doing it. I have to drop out for a while because I'm not, I'm not telling the story of my joy and I just can't do it right now. And I think people, I don't know if you, you agree with this little debate, but the whole social media thing, people are reading, people not being authentic
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:people are starting to, is this true, Jeremy, that, you know, you do research on this stuff. Is it an issue?
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Uh, well, I definitely think that there's, there's been a momentum in, not being so active. Actually, oddly enough, yesterday I saw this whole, um, YouTube video about someone who, they're, they work with a lot of different companies and businesses, and they were talking about what seems to be moving the algorithm and changing things. Now, of course, that's what everybody's always worried about, but um, and they were talking about. Uh, we were also obsessed with doing reels and videos and all this moving, moving, moving, moving content and keeping it just all out there. And now it's kind of like, people are, now we're starting to respond to slower content and carousels and, um, because it's, uh, it's not the, you're burned out is what it comes down to. Really. I think that, that people are just, they're tired. Like you, it's, we've consumed so much. Um. And our attention spans are so short now, um, which my poor niece, Lord, I'm gonna beat her to death in this episode. Uh, yesterday we were at the house after a funeral and she, she was like, what are we gonna do? I'm bored. I'm like, we literally sat down minutes ago, like, you cannot be bored. Like, I'm exhausted. Can we just sit here for like, I don't know, 10, 15 minutes? Um. But yeah, no, I think that there is this momentum of, all right, everybody's figured out how to do video and everybody can do all this, and it's really slowing it down and being more authentic and, and, and not posting as much for sure. I, I think so.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Well, I mean, I took a six week hi off social media back at, uh, the day before my birthday.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah. It was.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:And it was a, it was a bunch of different events that kind of led up to that, but it was so refreshing. I, I mean, it was, it was definitely breaking habits because you don't realize how much you check social, especially like with our jobs and different things, making sure you're not missing messages. And I just, I went cold Turkey, I mean, for six weeks and then came back and, you know, I kind of alluded to it. I didn't make a big like preface like, oh, I'm gonna go dark. I just, I just did. Um, and I was like, the people who know me best. Will will know to reach out to me. They have my phone numbers. The rest of everybody will be, will be fine.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Mm-hmm.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:You know, like I've got to make sure that I'm doing this for the right reasons and, and just kind of, social media has its pros and it cons just like everything in life, right? There's, like I said, with money, it's just a tool. Um, I had to refocus and just center myself to make sure that I wasn't just depleting myself from the social side of everything and just, I mean, I went. Like cold, cold Turkey. I mean, I started doing puzzles. I read all kinds of books. I mean, I felt like I was just embracing my old lady habits. I was like, I'm gonna start birdwatching.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Well, another one of the things that you did, which I really wanna get into, to, to, to find out why this has become like your little, not why, but how you got into it. But one of the, the newest, not obsessions, but where she, Amber finds her piece now is hiking. It's in the nature. It's a, it's in the woods, y'all. I mean, her Instagram is just.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Where
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:Oh, okay.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:But it, it's called When Nature Calls Dwayne. I don't know what
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:does a,
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:Okay.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:a bear shit in the woods, Dwayne.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:I guess
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:So do people. So do people.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:Okay, folks, there's your in.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:but, so, yeah. So what, what
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:your life to where this, what happened? How, how did that happen?
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:A divorce in.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Oh well Lord won't it do it? Won't he do it?
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah, I'll preface it with like, my dad always asks me, he's like, Amber, why hiking? Like, because I go a lot by myself.'cause I don't wait on people, our schedules to magically align so we can do it together. Like if I, if I need to go, I just go, I just go hiking. Um, he's like, why? And I was like, okay dad. Well let's think about it. When I was a kid, my mom's mom, so my grandmother lived down by the creek. Pulaski County and I grew up playing in all that creek, damning up the creek, trying to feel like I was part of the, the old movie Swiss Family Robinson, if anybody remembers that movie. I mean like I loved it.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:getting your crawl. Dad's in the mud.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:yes, yes. And then my dad's mom lived up on the hills in Wayne County, so I grew up playing in the rock shelters. So I said, when I'm in the woods, it's like the one place where like my A DHD brain slows. It's not running 90 miles a minute, and it feels just so peaceful. Like I'm a kid again. Like before the world got just crazy and I became aware of it. Right? So it just, I always tell people, it also just feels like a big bear hug from God because like, you know, you weren't meant for all this chaos, all this noise. Like what's really, really important, slow, like. And, um, being able to pay attention to just like, even like the little things around me, like those little orange noots. Oh my gosh. When I see those in the woods, I get so excited. Oh
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Is, is that like a little
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Little lizard.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:And they don't move really, really fast. Um, you're not supposed to pick them up, even though I'll pick them up, um, because
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Great. Now we're gonna have
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:say
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:wildlife organization coming after us.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:well have'em come at me. Um, but I mean, I love those little oranges and you just getting so excited about something so. Well, actually a lot of people go hiking and they never see'em'cause they're just not in tune to it. Like my brain's like, where are they? Where are they? They just, you can just pop one out. I'd be like, huh.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Instant mood changer. Yeah. But yeah, divorce and COVID, it was just a way for me to like, you know, I mean obviously we all felt like the world was just falling apart and ending during COVID and then you layer a divorce on top of that. Um,'cause we had actually separated going into COVID. I mean, it was just a way for me to. Calm my heart. Calm,
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:it was, it was going back to your center. It was
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Right.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:to the, the piece and finding it where it was. Oh, okay.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:yeah.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah, I,
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:So.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:it. I'm much like you. I get it in nature, but you get it in the woods. I get it. At the beach or in the water. Like I, my friends make so much fun of me when we go to the beach because we'll go down and we'll get on that little ocean. Ocean. Listen, I'm a water baby. Like I will stay in that water all day, like I will find. Jaws and I will make friends with the, with the shark, it's fine. But I will go out and I can stay in that water all day and I'll have me a big old miss, you know, miss Holly hat. Like I'll have me a big hat so I don't get to labor sunburn. And I'll go out there and I'll have me a little cocktail in my, my little thermos, you know, which you're also not supposed to do, but I can spend hours I'll just be looking out into the ocean and just going with the waves. And that's my moment. Like, that's, and my friend's, like, he's out there talking to Jesus and I was like, absolutely.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:There's a lot of science that backs it up too, like time and nature, whether it's the ocean or the woods or whatever. There's a lot of science that backs it up and I think there's a lot of like eastern, um, countries that actually prescribe you literally just going into like nature because of what.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Get your feet in the grass. Right? Like, be grounded, like,
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:And they call it forest bathing. Forest bathing and earthing.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:gotta, you gotta walk barefoot in the grass every now and then
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:it
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:you back to the earth,
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yep.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:so,
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:that.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:oh, you do? Yeah. Have to.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:All right. I have to go walk out in the backyard when we're done.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Hmm.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:So.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Love it.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Well, I, I love that that is like your, um, uh, the, the nature is so calming. It is, it is. It just kind of bring, like slows your little blood flow down. Now has this also it out there, has it also,'cause you know, we talked about interiors and inside stuff. I'm just wondering, has that affected how you approach things in your home? I'm just wondering because like I see, so Amber in this, in this uh, podcast, she was surrounded by bright, colorful floral paintings, which, did your mama paint all them or did you paint
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:She painted all them except for this one.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Okay. All right. I thought you did. Oh, look at that. I knew that your mom had painted some and they were really, really cute. And so those are bright and preppy and colorful, and see how those easily bring you Joy. Has the, has the outside coming in has that, have you done any of that?
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:There's a lot of earth, like, like wood in my house. So, um, but all of my artwork has purpose. Like I would say that, so like there's a story because, you know, y'all can't see behind me.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:No, I see.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Okay.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:No, I'm glad. Your artwork has purpose.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah. It's a purpose for me because. For the most part, I mom. I mom,
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:personal.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:personal, the blue and white, which Dwayne knows I have blue and white pottery all throughout my house. I didn't know what Shin was a, or whatever it's called, was. Before that, all I knew is my grandmother growing up all had all this blue and white pottery. So all my blue and white pottery makes me think of my grandmother. So there's usually just some sort of tie into everything in my house with how it makes me feel.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Mm. Mm-hmm.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:you should do
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Mm-hmm.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Mm-hmm.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah. People would probably think I have a whole lot more like hiking related stuff in here. I don't have as much hiking related stuff, but I have tons of pictures that I like my entire refrigerator. I know it looks horrible, but I literally have all these magnetic frames that I have on my refrigerator that have pictures of like all my adventures with my kids, my mom friends by myself all over there. So like if I need my little dose of that, I just go to the refrigerator.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:this is what you're supposed to do in your home, right? Like you're
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Right.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:to make it a place where it is you, it tells your story that makes you feel home, that brings you joy. So, uh, and that ain't gonna be one of us that judges. You know, if people ask us to come into their home and to work and fix on things, we're always going to adjust and fix. But part of our job is figuring out what makes this person tick, right? Like, what is their story and then telling their story through the stuff. So all this totally makes sense. Absolutely.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:Last thing that I've got in my mind is, you may not be there, but uh, do. See Amber 2.0 years down the from, you think you thought have given yourself even enough time to get there?
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:I don't know exactly what I'll be doing. Um, I might still be doing some variation of what I'm doing now. And the, and the reason I say that is, you know, like I, I sing and people have always asked me like, well, why didn't you pursue a career? And I'm like, God would literally have to smack me upside my head with that door. Because there's a whole lot of things I can find joy in doing. I
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:I.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:thank you, Jesus, that I have not put all of my eggs in one basket. Like I have to do this over here, or I'm just gonna like. Feel like I'm not being myself. There's a lot of things I can do, and there's a lot of different ways I can weave myself into different aspects and with the way that the world is changing and the opportunities out there to be able to make a living, who knows what the next 10 years are gonna look like. All I know is eventually I would love to live in the, the hills of Western North Carolina or East Tennessee
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Oh,
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:in a.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:a tiny home in a, in a tiny home now you
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yes.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:or a real tiny home? Oh Lord.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:I mean, not like so tiny, you can't have somebody come over, but like, oh, there's some of those tiny homes that are so cute.'cause they're cozy, they're functional, they have great outdoor space and.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:you are not a giant by any means, but you are a tall woman. Correct? I mean, I,
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah, she's tall. She's tall.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:but you're, I mean,
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:listen, she's not a monster, right? Like, come on. People need to stop.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:No, but.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:I just thought, how are people, how are people gonna take that if they've not seen a picture of Amber? But, but, Amber. no, that's not her. Listen, I have been in some of these tiny homes and I don't fit, like height wise, not
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:you, you
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:with the girth.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:like what I was, what I'm talking about? You could. I mean, they're like six to 800 square feet.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Oh, okay. I'm okay. I'm okay with that. Yes.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:is. More zen, more peace. It's, uh, that's your joy.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:your joy.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:Yeah.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:And being authentic to her and being okay with that. And that's, that's important.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:guess
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Well.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:what I'm hearing is, uh, slowing down. I hear slowing down. Well, you, you know, you are one of those people that, um. You see each thing as an opportunity as opposed to a challenge. It's like, how can this. Help me or be interesting or what can I do with it? And that's part of who you are as a person. It is always being open to exploring new opportunities and possibilities and when you're open like that, that's the reason I asked that question. I'm curious to have known where you kind of what allow yourself to dream a little bit because. Necessarily dreamer, but open to the next thing and the next thing. And the next thing that you've never, and this, this, this conversation has just solidified my belief is you've never allowed anybody to put you in a box you are a tiara wearing, uh, salamander uh. In the woods kind of girl that can wear high heels, put some lipstick on and sing in her car, but yet she needs to, I can go the swimming and I think that's a pretty, pretty
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah.
dwayne_1_06-27-2025_130030:girl. That's a pretty interesting girl.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:One of my hiking friends calls me the feral mountain Princess.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Ha. That's perfect.
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yeah.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:is perfect.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:is the perfect, the perfect point. I love that. Well, hopefully, um, our listeners should like, have gained a little bit of, uh, inspiration to being open to what being at Peace means for them and finding their inspiration and. Just being good with who they are and how God made them in whatever capacity that is. So Amber, thank you so much for joining us
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Well, thank you for having me.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yes. Thank you.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:Yes, and thank you for everything you've ever done for us. We can never say thank you enough,
amber-_1_06-27-2025_130029:Oh, it's.
jeremy-guest553_1_06-27-2025_130029:you are one of a kind. For sure. Listeners, if you have not downloaded our mobile shopping app, house Floral, be sure to download that in the app store wherever you get your apps, and we'll see you next week. All right, thanks. Bye.
stuart_1_06-27-2025_130029:Bye.
