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S2:E4 Creating a Timeless Design
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One of our favorite ways to discuss our favorite kinds of design is timeless, but what does that mean? How do you do that? Well...that's what the three of us delve into this week!
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dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504You know, taking over the
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Oh,
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504with Doge is easier than doing this taping today.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219or buying a Tesla, one of the two. I don't know.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218The topic for today is, well, it, it was something that you brought up, Dwayne, but I actually had a customer ask me, she said, you know, you all talk about. When you're doing a room trying to do it in a timeless way, right? And then she goes, but what is that? And I thought, you know,
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Okay. Fair enough.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218is not the, uh, if this is not like in your common vernacular or this isn't the way you think about it, like, I get it, right?
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Hmm.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218a lot of other things that we get that it
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Yeah,
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218different things to different people.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504sure. Sure.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218And so today I thought we should discuss like how we approach, designing homes for us and for clients, or spaces or, vignettes, whatever it is, in a way that is more timeless. And if, if there are guardrails or if there are points that we go from to take from for that.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Hmm.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504That's fair. I will argue with a.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Um, so what you all have? Like, are, are there like things that come to mind that are just like technically always, um, that you consider timeless? Or are there, is there like a
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Uh,
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218what's it called? Is there a point of view that you
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Stewart can't wait to say something. I'm, I'm waiting. He's, yeah. Okay. Stewart, go.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219bated breath. Um, hardwood floors I think are timeless
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Get out. We rarely agree on anything. And that was with a what? I was gonna
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219I know all, I mean, that's it. You got hardwood floors, you are 40% there.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Yes.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Yeah, I mean, always,
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504it.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219always.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218yeah. I
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Well, you
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Now not, not LVT, not Pergo, not laminate, hard wood floor.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218yeah,
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504I, I do air quotes real.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218we've discussed on here that the, the, the difference that there is with, um, just having real wood. It's the, it's, there's something about the, the density
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Oh.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218feel of it, the sound of it, all of that.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Funny, you,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Yes.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504have houses that, um, it comes to the flooring, it's so funny that I can feel them, hear them understand the soul of your houses. Where mine a compromising, it's that nasty Bruce pre-finished hardwood flooring that I lost a battle on many years ago. We won't get into that. I
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Because you've clearly gotten over it.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Mm. 20 years later, I still hate, I hated that date was going in and I hated 20 years later.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Mm.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504But we won't go down that path. But let's start with Jeremy's. Jeremy's, you know, kind of that medium oish colors what's in my head, but thinner and
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Yeah.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504and it just has a character to it and it's slightly worn. It's like a great pair of shoes that they're, it's
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219it, is it red oak or white oak, do you know? Or a combination thereof.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218believe it's Red Oak because the, the, the stain, we don't even have stain, it's just polyurethane. and when we originally were working on the house, we only did the first floor knowing we'd do the second story later on. And I thought, Lord, I can't afford to do all these stairs too at the time. Um, so we just put back what was basically there, right? So it was just
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218and then when we redid the kitchen, we had to put down some new wood. and I just remember the, the contractor's saying, yeah. He goes, I'm pretty sure this is Red Oak. He goes, you know, you put it down and it's a, real pretty nice color. And then, you know, 50, 75 years later it turns into the beautiful color of country ham.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Hmm.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218So that's always How so? It's not, it's not red. It's, when he said that, I was like, I don't
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Well, right, but it's just Right. It'll take a stain different just based on that. Yeah.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218was white oak, but, um,'cause I would have a lot more flexibility with stains and stuff. But, uh. But Yeah, but no. It's funny that you
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Yes.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218wood floors. For me it's overall like natural textures. Like I'll even widen that, that up. So like, even if it's real stone or uh, you know, whatever, but real textures, legitimate, you know, marble gran, like whatever. It like those elements. I think that has a true like time tested, just like it could have been
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504I wanna stick with the harbor floor for a moment because I think I'm starting with you, Jeremy, because I think the harbor floor is in your house. Even though I kind of hear the tone that you don't necessarily love it, I like it and it really does give your house, um, a. Charm and it feels old and it feels authentic to the house, right? It get well. Well it
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504It, it, it feels appropriate, right? It feels like it's got in age and time and life and so it, that's what makes your house on top of all the other things that you've done. It started with what Stewart said. It started with the 40%. That's the hard floors.'cause it already started off the house in the right. Path because it has personality. Then I really, really jump over to Stewart's house and oh my God, you know, you Antebellum mansion there with your floors and the boards that are, you know, 12 feet wide. I don't know how big they are. You are, I mean it, you walk in that and you go as much as you see everything. Again, the flooring for yours, it gives
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504its soul, its personality.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right. And it, and it's, you know, again. It's the time of what they had, you know, 162 years ago. So they really were cutting trees off of the property they owned, and that's where the floors came from. They're all heart pine. They're all random widths. They're random links, and even though the coloring is a little different in every room, I think that's really what tree they came out of and how they were stained. I mean, it's just,
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504tell, tell you that.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219yeah.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504feels old and interesting and, you know, the, the, the, the, the walk, the sound, you know, especially at
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Yeah.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Um, Stewart, it gives it, again, its soul because you hear and it creeks and has its personality and so, I'm with you a hundred percent. Harbor floors. Yes. And now go back to Jeremy again on your sales pin. It's like, okay, if you don't do harbor floors, what's the next thing that is timeless for flooring?
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218it We even get to like, moving on from that, you were talking about the flaws and the stories and all that with
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218So when we bought our home, we're the third owner of this home. And so the previous owner who lived here for 50 years of the 65, before we got it, they at some point decided she wanna put linoleum down, honey. They put linoleum down in that foyer tiles and then they did something upstairs. I can't remember, uh, what it was'cause it was so long ago, but. We ripped it up. And of course, you know, they put all these staples and nails and things in the, in the floor. And when we had to rip'em all, all out before they could refinish the floor and, you know, here's all these holes. And Jeremy was freaking out'cause he was like, all these, it looks like it's Swiss cheese. And like, well, it's not that bad. There's just a lot of holes and they're all dark. And so when it came time to refinish them, I asked, I asked, well, can you, can we fill'em in with anything? He's like, well, you know, not really. And then I decided, I was like, no, you know. This is part of the story, right?
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218is part
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219That's the story of the house. Yep.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218left over a hole that's there and it's just like a, a little thing, and I look, every time I look down, I'm like, yeah, it's, it's just the wear and tear baby. It's just your life.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504It's The Wrinkle.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218the wrinkles. I say that after I
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Yeah.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218face creams this morning, but you know, I
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Oh, Stewart's over there.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218that I'm
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504You're
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Hm.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504in over there,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219I mean, now Botox is kicking in.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218But moving on
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504I love it.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218that, going to like those natural textures, like, you know, if you've got like a Spanish colonial home and it has ceramic like that, no, not ceramic. Um.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Tia,
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218uh, yeah, it has like the tile that was like
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219SIA Tile. Yeah,
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218it seems true to the home can also, I feel like, be timeless in that kind of style of home, but
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Sure.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218um, uh, whether it be Pennsylvania, bluestone that I think we all like, you know, just dream of and never can afford. Um, or those like natural slate,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219on my porch.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218slate, not the nasty, like rusty color green slate, which I just, I listen, I know people out there love it. I just can't do it. My daddy always wanted to put it down and my mama said absolutely not. And I said, thank you Jesus.'cause I can't deal with it.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Basically, when you say classic, for you, it's almost charcoal, right? It's
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Yeah.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504pretty monolithic is
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Well, that's when it was mined originally. You know, so many scrapes centuries later. It turns color. I mean, you know, I mean, that's true with any natural stone. It doesn't look like it did when they first got it out of the ground 10 years ago.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218I think it also comes from where my mom and dad's house is. It's, it's, there's a lot of slate in the yard. Uh, a lot of slate stone. So like if you dig down so far, you, you're hitting slate. Like it's, you don't even have to go dig down that far to hit it. And it was just everywhere, but it was the ugly slate. I has all the, and it just always just turned me off.'cause I always hear my mom like complaining about, I can't dig to put a flower bed in. I can't do this, I can't do that, and all that. So I think that's what kinda turned me off of it too. comes to mind always when I think of that are like the cabins and Pigeon Forge or Gatlinburg, and they've put that around the surround and there's logs everywhere and it's just, that's you, you go right ahead baby. It ain't me.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504I would look of, of, of slate if you really wanna define it and say what's classic. I think we all would say. It is more monolithic and it's more charcoal. It's, it's, again, about texture as opposed to you don't need that much personality in the flooring for it to be greens and these, and oranges and rust. It's more monolithic for, for all of us. It's more classic once it's all said and done in slate form.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Mm-hmm.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Yeah, I would agree. Yeah.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504yeah, yeah, yeah. And what else are you loving about the, uh, the, the flooring? Jeremy, you were going off on Marble. Marble gets a bad rap. Marble gets a bad rap. Marble gets a bad rap.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218mean, you think about these, uh, national monuments, they're all made outta marable.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Every one of'em.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218one
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Mm-hmm.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Every library.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Mm-hmm.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218just in a beautiful, oh my God. We, when we visited friends in Columbus, uh, a couple weeks ago, we went to this, uh, bar that was an old, bank, and they have renovated it into like a cocktail bar. So it wasn't like a dance club, it was just like someplace you'd go and sit down and have drinks with friends, just, you know, have a casual night. Anyway, it was one of these beautiful old banks that were, you know. God only knows how old it was. Um, but 30, you know, 30 feet ceilings and all that with beautiful chandeliers and everything. And you know, everything's just like the old marble. And it had been there for a long, long time and
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218as it was back then. Right. I mean,
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218just don't get wear and tear. But those natural, um, those natural materials, they, they tell a story that they've
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Well,
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218This
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219well, right, and I think that's where people. Get it wrong about Marble because the more you use it, the better it looks. Don't marble should never be a hundred percent completely clean, I don't think. I mean, you can clean it,
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Oh
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219but
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218my house is most of the time.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Yeah. I mean you can clean it, but like you just said, in these buildings that were built in the late 18 hundreds, early 1920s, they're all marble. They're all, people are still walking on'em all day long. They're still museums. They still look great. They look classic'cause they are. So if you put that in your house, don't think it has to be high polished, shine white marble on your floor all the time
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Mm-hmm.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219then that just makes it look cheap,
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218I, yeah. I don't
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219you know?
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504the day is Embrace your wrinkles.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218embrace
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504That's what it is. It brings to wrinkles.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Yeah. And I
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219So, yeah.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218embracing the wrinkles goes to, a, bigger idea of curated and collected also. Right. So that's you having the table that you've got, you've had that. Um, like I have this table that, my dad had a somebody in his family that owned a grocery store and they had the butcher block table that they used in this grocery store where they cut all of the meat that the people bought well, he was so proud of this thing. And look, I hated this thing for the longest time, but now who has it? Me? And so it has all the chops and the thing like the butcher block, you think, you know, you just kind of like that. And I love that natural texture kind of mixed in with things because it just, it tells the story and it doesn't feel like I just bought everything at, you know, some store and bought it. So it's that curated over time. Right. I think
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218that's where I was going. It's like it doesn't just happen overnight, right? It has to be curated and you have to get those wrinkles and you gotta get all the little love and dove and then, you know, put your oil la on and then do what you gotta do.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504You know when the process Right. Had that furniture motif and you bought all of it at one time from the Roy Hill? Yeah. Don't do that. Don't do it. If I won the whole furniture package, I wouldn't. I would not want the end tables. Okay. Just to be clear. Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218sadly, um, I don't why Jeremy is obsessed. My husband is obsessed with, The old game shows, but I guess there's like a network where you can just watch all these old,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Oh yeah. The Game Show network.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218um, I don't even know what some of these games are. I, I can't remember the names of them. Um, I. But one the other night had like this gigantic curio cabinet was, all of the trim and all of the detail and all of the goop and all
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Ooh, and shiny cherry, I bet.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218in cherry exactly. It was shiny cherry and they rolled it back. And you even at the time, you could see the woman who looked at it, which, you know, this had to be taped in like the seventies because she had like the seventies hair with these big ass sunglasses or big ass glasses that were tinted and. And, but it wasn't like she was Farrah Faucet. It was like she was Farrah Faucet from the holler. And
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504I got
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218it's just, I mean, you, I'm trying to paint the picture for you and it pulls up and you can see
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504That was pretty clear. That was pretty clear.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218know, it was just a very specific picture it pulls back those doors. You see that curio cabinet and you see her eyes get so big and she's so excited, and then she realizes, I don't like that. I don't wanna win that. You see, you see the switch in her mind. Go.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Oh, I don't want, well, if you ever get on the game show technic, uh, uh, network or if I ever see it, it's uh, match game. Uh, if I'm scrolling and that's
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Oh God,
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504there for 12 minutes.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219that's so funny.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Match game. Yes.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218You know, I've had several friends on Jeopardy and friends on who wants to be a millionaire, and I'm like, I would be a disaster.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Oh yeah, I can tell you that.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218I would look at the
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Oh, yeah,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219But who?
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504yeah. you, you're, you're a smart cookie, but you would go real stupid.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Yeah.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504you.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218I, I know I would, that's why I'm not gonna, that's why I'm not gonna
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504You not gonna do it, are you? Uh. Okay. Guess.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218there colorways that you think that are more classic?
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Hmm. Oh, yeah. Uh, anything,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Ooh.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504anything creamy, anything soft, white and anything the lightest, softest, prettiest blue is in my world. Those are the two that I always will go to toward, and that's 3% what I do. So if you hire me, guess what color are you getting? Right.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218What about you, Stuart?
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Uh, wow. See, I, I see colors as more heavy that are timeless, weird.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Well, I think that's also because of
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504You've done a beautiful job with your house. Yeah.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218There.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504job.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218pick up a historical paint book from, if you go to Lowe's or Home Depot or you're one of those big, big box stores and you pick up what, what they consider the historical colors, right?
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218gonna have the creamiest of creams, you're
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Yes, absolutely.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218then you're also gonna have these, these colors
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219It's very saturated,
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218very saturated, very, very rich, that were in like homes. Like the one that you have Stuart, like that that is, uh, that's there. Now I don't think for like the beautiful, uh, blue green color that you've got in the front sitting room, uh, which
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Mm,
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Um,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219thank you.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218I could not do that in my house because it
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219No,
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218way too dark
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219right.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218because if you've got all the trim and all the detail and the seat, the,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219The height.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218and, and the grander
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219a difference. I.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218room it feels timeless. Absolutely.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Mm. Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218in my home. It would
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right,
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Home run.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219right,
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Home run.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219right.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Beautiful color. Beautiful color. I think from the listing audience, you should put that color up because it's yum. Now, if you have a 12 to 12 room, don't do it. Don't do it.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219I was gonna say, did I give that to you?
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218I think you gave this one before, but I'll put it down on the show notes,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Okay. I'll make sure I send it right now before I forget.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218a picture of your, uh, sitting room and then they can see it, um, and they can see what we're talking about, like the, the,
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Yeah, I can see somebody link that picture and is like chewing their gum. I'm like, he lives there.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219What?
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504you know, it's somebody so funny. We, I, I, you know, I don't remember what we do half the time,
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Great.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504either we were in a house or we taped something that maybe it's not that far ag long ago, but it's something to do with my house, right? And if you notice me, I'm more casual than none. I'm usually in a$4 Walmart t-shirt. Okay? Um, I was in a, um, a local
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Oh my God.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504picking out something for somebody person comes in who I don't really love, but she's like, I saw your house on tv. And I said, oh, well thank you. She said, your house.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Uh.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Pause and say, yeah, I don't live in the slums. Her thing was, it was like, I don't know that she thought I was, uh, from, still from the holler. I don't know what she thought, but apparently what I lived in is not what she expected it to be. And I'm like, well. Yeah. I, you can, you don't have to put on the dog. Right. You know
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504is not for you. This is for me and this is what I like. I don't give two craps what you like. Uh,'cause I don't like her. Anyway.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Well, Lord have mercy.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218I, well, you know what, though? Not, I'm not defending her, but I can see because you are
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Oh, let's see what,
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218No, no, no. What I was
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504yes, yes.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218home is a little more formal, uh, in places
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219I would say yes, for sure.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Oh yeah. Yeah.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218you as. Because like you said, you're
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504A hundred percent
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218and, and
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504right?
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218and, and all
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Yeah, I get it. I get it. You
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219I think people see you sitting in a Pottery Barn living room.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504so, okay. Fair enough.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218I
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Because it's super casual. It's just, it's linen, it's comfortable. It's just got a little blanket over here and some wicker basket over here, but that's not your house at all.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504get in my head why I like the aesthetic that I liked in, you wanna do a little psychology? I. Because it is more formal than not by far. Um, the only thing I've landed on is I love old things because I have a history and I don't have a family and a, a lineage of handing me down old things. So I've acquired the old things. So old things for me then are fall into two, two categories and it's crocs and old wicker baskets and that's not my thing, which I do let me a good crock or, or it is old silver. It's alabaster, you know, that's stone. Like I will buy me an old piece of silver with so somebody's monogram on it all day long, because I look at that I'll go, isn't that with the people that they love? I've said that before. And so therefore I want to. I'm, you all say like the wounded bird. Well, that wounded bird is that piece of monogrammed, uh, silver that somebody should have been with their family and I buy it. Um, so I have all this mismatched, formal monogrammed silver because
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Well, Lord, this is all coming together. While he brings all these lost souls in this store to work in the warehouse, he has found these people and he's trying to match them to a monogrammed plate. Jesus.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504There's the story now we figured it
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Now we know.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504now we know, but that's, that's probably what I don't know, I guess. Um, it's so funny. I had a client to tell me the story once in the very comfortable, he had an uncle, and this man was probably in his early seventies when I met him, and he was, they were building a house and the story, they had a, an uncle that lived on Fifth Avenue that was originally from Kentucky, and more casual enough. He visited his very well to do uncle on Fifth Avenue and they were being served out the most beautiful of Tiffany Silver and they were opening the, the dishes and out of it was coming collared greens. And that's
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Oh,
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504heart
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219you gotta eat.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504probably who Well at, that's at the heart of me. I love that story in that you could have this beautiful package, but it's what's inside of it matters more. Right. But the packaging. His can be beautiful and elegant, but what's inside of it is a surprise.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Oh, I think you're talking about me.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Yeah, I am. I love it. I love,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Oh God.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Let's move on.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Okay.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218so we'll, we'll get back to color.'cause, you know, we do love to
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Yes.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218I do think that a brighter or a creamier, or a white or a lighter color is, will always lend itself in most architectural situations to be a little more timeless,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219and I would say dirty white rather than white.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Then Crisp White. Yeah. Then,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Yeah.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Yeah.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Yeah.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Um, unless you've got, uh, a, a home, a historical home like Stewart or even I think a friend of Nora's Kitchen, when they did, uh, everything in the, the new kitchen that
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Yeah.'cause that's a pretty dark kitchen,
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218it's a lot of
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219but it's
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218about it's, it
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219not.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218in that
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right,
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218the character of the house. so I think the key point of that is taking, like, look at the character of the house, look at the details of the house, and if that lends itself to you to be able to use some historical color, that is great. I would still put a white. Kitchen in North house, not have any questions with qualms about it, but I knew she, that's not what she wanted. Right. But I think you could have done a white, timeless kitchen in that house, or you could have done what she did, which was, you know, more color and, and all that. And it still feels very, very timeless. And that again, and the, I, I keep going back to curated, cur and curated and wrinkles, because in that, what she did in her kitchen, um. With the materials and the colors and everything, it felt very collected over time. It didn't feel like it was brand new. And I think that's also really important if you're trying to do something that you wanna make it feel like it's timeless, um, is that it doesn't feel like you bought the Broyhill collection altogether, but it feels like you've picked it up over time on your, on your travels or what. And so that's why I don't always feel, like I don't have to have everything done for the house at one time. Like I can
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Oh no.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218it over
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Right? And,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right,
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218clients, like if I can get 80%, I feel really good about the 80% and then that other 20% we're gonna find when we find something that we really love and it really speaks and then we can get it there.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219right.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Right.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Yeah, it is, you know, like you've heard me say about our. Or Ralph Lauren room upstairs. That's just what we call it, which is basically a sitting room upstairs'cause it's got heavy TWA drapery, but then it has plaid chairs and a maroon sofa and this big ottoman. And I shit you not Jeremy, my husband Jeremy,
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Yeah, not me.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219has brought home about 82 different sets of pillows for this sofa. And I have made him take them all back. I was like, they just don't work. He's like, but it has all the colors in the room. I said, yeah, but you don't want them all on one pillow either. And he brought some home the other day he was so proud of, they looked like they should be on the lanai. Golden Girls.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Oh, Lord.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Oh Lord.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218There's that homosexual coming out
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right. I said, take'em back. Take'em back. He's like, that's, he's like, well, that's why I left the tags on these. So,
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Thank
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219but you know, it is, that's, it's curating that look. So yes, been looking for some pillows for that particular space, but the, we'll find them, you know,
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218it'll, it'll take some time.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219and.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504give the listening audience some pretty colors'cause I'm actually use you all a little bit. Pretty soft off white color that, uh, you all been using or have used? Uh, I have landed on Creamy as a maybe possibility. And that's from Williams. Have you all used that? Is it a little too yellow? kind of
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218know any of them
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504playing with that a
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Uh, uh, I, I don't really use Sherwin Williams.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504I Okay, well let's keep going. So,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Been,
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504alabaster is that? Sherman
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219that's Sherwin Williams. Also,
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218sure
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219there's a compliment. I'm gonna, um, I.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218have him, I'm sure.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219I am gonna give you two that are kind of my favorites right now, and I actually put them in our house in the addition, when we put the bedroom on linen.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504I've used, okay, lemme tell you. Greek Villa Serm Williams. Have you used that one? I know Stewart, maybe not.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219I, I, I actually have used that one. It is pretty,
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What, what linen,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219um, simply White. Simply White from Ben Moore. I'll send this to Jeremy too.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504also.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Uh, linen is also a bit more simply white is a little dirty. Linen is actually more clean. So
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Be the, yeah.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219yeah, you'd think it would be the opposite. But I'm gonna send this,
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Yep.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219I'm sending it to him right now while I'm talking about it.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Well.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Okay.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219there is another one from Ben Moore if you want a little bit more brown. It's called Maritime White. And that reads, um. In daylight, it reads kind of crisp, but at night it definitely turns almost toasted.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Oh, ooh yum.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Yeah, I'll send that Tim too, and
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504candlelight. Okay, perfect.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Yeah, and I'll send that Tim too, so you can put up there. So there, I just sent him both of those.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218you know, with discussing these, uh, lighter creamier white colors, I don't want people to also feel like you have to have, it has to be white. Right. Like to, to be timeless.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219yeah, no.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218and it does. And you can't have color.'cause that's, that's not the situation either. So I think the smartest thing to do when you're trying to do, and I, a timeless design, I, I describe timeless as. And I think that we're probably on the same page with this is if, if you redid something, someone looks at it and they don't know if you redid it two years ago, 20 years ago.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Right. It, it feels like it could have just been update updated, but it feels like it still feels true to the space of the time. Right. It just doesn't feel like it doesn't have that damn glass tile back splash that everybody used in the nineties from Lowe's in the back of the kitchens. Right. Or the early two thousands. So. It's doing that to where it feels like it's kind of like ambiguous of when it could be done, but it still always feels updated and fresh. Right. That that's how I updated fresh, but also true to the historical
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Uh, so, and I think a good, uh, mainstream, I guess, publication that shows timeless design well is Architectural Digest and sometimes Southern Living Magazine, because I think both of those show things that were relevant in 1965, and they're relevant today as well. And, and a lot of the interiors that they show in both of those magazines are very indicative of that. And that's what's timeless to me, where you don't really know. It's like, oh, did Aunt Matilda preserve this house? Or did you just come in and do this house? You know, so yeah.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218me it's, I don't want it to feel so preserved. I just want it to feel
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Well collected. Yeah.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Constantly fresh, but curated,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Correct.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218that makes sense. That makes sound like an oxymoron, but I.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504No, no, no. Everybody's trying to get rid of gray now. Everybody's like, I'm sick of gray. Sick, sick of gray. Uh, be careful.'cause classic gray is classic if you got
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219It is.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504brown undertone to it. There's a color, uh, out there that I will still use every single day if it's your aesthetic called revere pewter, which has been there for a thousand years. So it's a really. Brown, gray, gray, brown. It depends on who, see who you see it, and the lighting and stuff like that. If you are a, a, a, a warmer person that wants a little color to it, I still to this day just love, love, love that color. So I think that that should not
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Well it
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504off the, the radar.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219and that is a gray, that definitely changes in location and daylight and nighttime too. In, in the Loft I had downtown, the entire thing was painted. Revere Peter, anybody who came there. Asked me what all the different colors were in all the rooms. I was like, it is the same paint in the entire space. They're like, no, your bathroom's green. I'm like, no, it's not. It's the same paint. They're like, well, your bedroom's charcoal. Nope, same paint. It's just it because it plays with light so well. So that is a wonderful gray to use.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Mm mm
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Yeah.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504A hundred percent.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Yeah.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504percent
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218So you can have, color. I also think that Stewart, what you mentioned about like your, your, the condo that you down, uh, downtown was, uh, not condo, but the,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219The loft. Yeah. Yeah.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Um, that, having that. Continuation of color or a color palette throughout a a home also kind of lends itself to creating an overall feeling of a little bit more timeless. Not saying you can't do colors, a different color in a bedroom or a different color like here or there, but if you can have something that continues, like we talked about, the hardwood floors throughout your house, if you can have something, I think colorway that. Connects through it all and still be able to add your little accents and things. I also think that that kind of helps for the whole personality of the house.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Yeah. Consistency.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218A little bit of
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Yeah. Well,
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Who, who of all of us have harbor floors in at least their master, if not all their bedrooms.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219so
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504car. Actually,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219here, here's where I'm gonna buck. I didn't put hardwood in our master.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504soon as you said that you
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Huh? And I did I on purpose because.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504me why.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Well, now there was hardwood in the original primary there. Right. But when you all built
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Upstairs. Yes. When we put the addition on
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218you did
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219and had to build it new, I specifically didn't put hardwood in that part, just that room because my bedroom to me is where I'm gonna go that nobody else can go,
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Mm-hmm.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219and I will relax in there. And I want to feel that on my. Feet after a day of being on them for 12 hours. I want to take my shoes off. I want squishy. I want soft. When I wake up in the morning, that's what I want to feel.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Mm-hmm.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219my other homes had hardwood in the bedroom, but I always put a rug down.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Yeah.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219So,
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Yeah.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219know, just because I, I didn't want it. And honestly, you know, and it, and it wasn't even a cost thing. It was just, I want carpet in this room period. You know? That's
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Generally is your,'cause it's older loftier, is it a, is it, is the house physically cold or is it No, it
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Tara. Um,
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Yes. Yes.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219so no, um, two guests coming. Some people say it's cold, a. I'm used to living in a hundred plus year old houses, so I, I, I'm just used to it.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504It, it's,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219But now I will say our bathroom, our new bathroom is cold. Um,'cause you know, it's a lot of tile, it's a lot of marble
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218And a lot of windows.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219and a lot of windows. And somebody was being cheap and wouldn't put in heated floors when we were doing it. I don't know who that was.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218who that could be either.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219And this winter when it has been real cold, I was like, I don't know why we didn't put heated floors in this. And the comment goes back, it's like, well, somebody's ass clenched. That's why we couldn't do it. So
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504My
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219that's all me. But anyhow, that bathroom is an entire,
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504on every client
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219know I will.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504you?
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219You know, and that bathroom is an entire wall of windows, so that.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Mm-hmm.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Doesn't help when it gets the north wind when it's 20 below, so whatever. But
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Okay. Yeah, no,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219the hou,
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504uh.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219house is warm.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504is hardwood floor. Right? As soon as I said that out loud, I was
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219I.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504I backed into a corner.'cause like I remember that. And I, it doesn't seem off, it doesn't seem inappropriate and what, you know, and, uh, the visual is, I, I, it, it's wool. It feels cozy. It feels warm. So when you're articulating those definitions of why it's important, why you did it that way, you achieved it
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504it
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Yes.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504like a warm cocoon. It
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right. And that's what I, that's what I wanted. Yeah.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Mm-hmm.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219cool.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504I guess I, the whole point of that one is generally other than this one that people kind of wince when you say, let's put hardwood floors in a bedroom. I, I think that's okay. Generally, you know, this is
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219No, it, it, it is okay because all of the other bedrooms have hardwood floors like the rest of the house.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218it was just that his arthritic
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219It was, it was my, my knees needed that cushion.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504I love it. Lord. One day we'll get the Barker
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Oh,
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504for it.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219oh,
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504we go.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219never.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Never.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Well, there's two other places where I think that we should quickly, like,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Okay.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218trying to figure out how to approach it in a, in a timeless way. And one is hardware as far as like whether we can talk about, um, like door hardware, but more specifically probably like, faucets and things like that. Because I think that you can really muck it up that way if you don't, if you don't do it that
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218to do it in a timeless way. And the other thing is window treatments. I think that, that you can back yourself into a corner and be screwed if
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218you do so, if you
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219And those are not cheap
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218No. And
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219do again.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218one of those are things that you do that you wanna screw up.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218um,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219It's funny.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218like bathrooms um, faucets and all those kinda things, I will always tend to try to find something that lends itself to a more historical kind of like, design. it's been updated. I don't want something that looks brand new and modern, but I want something that has a little bit of, a little bit of fluff, a little bit of something. Um, I love cross cross handles. I've always loved those. Um, but,
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504And most of the time that's a very hard sale for me with clients. They almost never wanna do it.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218they
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504I love it.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218for me, that's, that's where
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218you
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218the levers, sometimes they, for me, they get a little too modern. Right?
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218but that's where I always tend to go is, um, finding something that has a little bit, and again, this, maybe this is because of the home leave I lived in. A modern condo downtown, for example. I would approach it in a completely different way, but in the house that we live now with the character that we have, I want it to feel like it's really timeless. I try to find something that has a little bit of that historical, like old styling, but has been updated and that's where I always updated traditional. That's usually, that's my go-to of trying to figure out that way versus doing super modern hardware, which I don't think you're gonna make a mistake if you GOs more modern, but I do think it feels more.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Let me stop you there. So,
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218could be a disaster,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right. That's what I was gonna say. Trendy.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504on to get people to understand what is timeless, part of the layer of what timeless is, it depends on the setting.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218that's
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Right.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Well, so I need them to hear that timeless can be a modern aesthetic if it's age appropriate,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219right, if you.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504it needs to be timeless in the more traditional house. So there's two different definitions of what timeless can be, but it is related to the setting and the aesthetic that you have tried or are in that makes it timeless,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504they need to hear that. They need to hear that.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Yeah. I mean, you can have a mid-century house and it's still timeless.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Oh,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219As long as you're treated that way, you know, don't put Victorian furniture in it, then it's stupid, but. I mean, you know, I mean that's what it is. So it really is indicative of the setting itself. And what we're all talking about is settings of our personal homes and how we think they're timeless. You know, and it's funny, Jeremy, you brought up window treatments and um, faucets. I instantly went to how your artwork is framed to me.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Oh, that's another great way.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219And'cause we also know that I'm kind of picky on that anyway, but I will throw a modern piece in when I put a picture of my, of the front room up, there's a huge modern piece of art right in the middle of it. But everything else is so not. So it is that contrast that I like, but it's in a timeless setting with an updated pop in your face.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Yeah. And it's not that you can't have those things ab,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Yeah.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218right. It's about, I always say like it. You do the the biggest part of your surrounding if you want a timeless surrounding, then find those things that really make you happy, that
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right,
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218bring you the joy and put those in there and they're gonna feel like they, like they have the right home. Right? You can't put that everywhere, but you can have that, like, that, like, like your heart. Absolutely.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219right, right. It's all cool.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Um, drag
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Okay.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Um, real quick we'll do with this, um, the days of Jabos and swags. And Lord God, help us. I hope, I hope that they're gone, but if you're, if, um, if you live in a Victorian home and we, and you need to do it, it makes sense.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504I hope Diane's not listening.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218no, listen, our friend Diane,
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219She is become a little progressive.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218has updated, she, she has
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219saw yes.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218She has updated and I think the, the easiest or the simplest, or the safest thing for you to do is just do straight pinch plea panels. you're never gonna go wrong with them. Pinch pleat is, can feel modern, can feel classic, can feel traditional. It, you know, it, they can go all, all the different directions. I wouldn't go super crazy in pattern. do something safer linen, you know, some kind of textural thing, always right? Wrap yourself in the
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Yep. Yep.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218pattern. And then you
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Yep.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218the things on top of it. But if you do that, you're not gonna put it up and be like, in five years, be like, oh God, I hate those things.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504No. The thing is, it sounds really boring and conservative, but a good beige off white pinch, pleat drapery that's tailored and well executed. Yeah. Never
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219It can go anywhere.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504wrong.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Yeah, it can go anywhere.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218a tape trim
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504Yep.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218edge if you wanna add you some color, if you wanna add a little bit of something there, that's the way to do it. But
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Right.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218always. Wonderful. Um, well, I hope everybody learned something new today. We learned that Stewart's cheap, that I would just live in a white box and that Dwayne likes wounded birds, so I.
dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504There you go.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219There it is. There it is.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Hopefully you learned some additional things today in our podcast. New episodes are released every Wednesday. If you have any opinions or anything you wanna tell us about, you can call us on our hotline at 1 8 5 9 4 1 2 1 5 7 2. And if you haven't downloaded our mobile shopping app, HouseFloral, please do. We're, we have started our live sales again, Stewart and I did one last night for Spring. It was lots of fun. And we're getting ready to launch a new series called Lunch with the Boys that they probably don't know about
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Ooh, I'm so excited. I'm so excited
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218Yeah. And they'll look at
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219because it's daytime hours. It's daytime hours, Dwayne.
jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_100218um, that you'll also have access to in our app. So be sure to check it out there. Until next week, we hope you have a joy filled week and we will see you all then. Thanks guys.
stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219Bye
