The Boys

S1:E23 Lighting and Olympics

• Jeremy Rice • Season 1 • Episode 23

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Ever wondered why some spaces that you walk into feel so magical?  Spoiler Alert, it's always the lighting!  The boys discuss some details about lighting that can help you both light it up, and not swiss cheese up your ceiling with recessed lights.  And they talk about Jeremy's love for the Olympics and when Dwayne should be planning his next European vacation.

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stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Well, you best be buying plane tickets now.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

well,

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

wait till February, Kathy, if you're going in April. You gotta get them. Why are you looking at

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Next, you listen, Spottin.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

She cannot wait 60 days before.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

um, Well, I am, um, so excited because, well, two things. One, um, We have market next week, although it's exhausting. Um, I have a good time. I feel like, you know, it's good. We, I enjoy spending time with y'all. We get to spend more time together than we do most of the time. Right. So like, that's one joyful. Um, but the other thing that

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Just don't take me to a buffet.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

there's no, no buffets are

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

buffets.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

No buffets are scheduled.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

no buffets are scheduled, the other things that I'm just like, I am so fucking excited for is the Olympics. Uh, Love the Olympics.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

you just, you just articulate to us what gives you that joy because I love America, but I can get two shits about it at this

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

It's the costumes.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Isn't the costume

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

you know, I don't know what is.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

isn't it? It's

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

always loved the Olympics. I, like, growing up, like, of course it's changed, you know, with, with, since COVID and, and then, you know, countries not having as much money to spend and, and do kind of things, but like, you know, like the opening ceremonies, like those were just always like

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

the costuming. It's

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Yeah, it's the cost, it's the production, I

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

It's the production. See?

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Well, I mean, listen, I'll watch

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

the beginning and the end and the fireworks and the drones You don't care about the swimming and the running and the shot puts in the whatever it is.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

are the Olympics this year?

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

What's

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

they're in paris?

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

I have noticed on my Facebook feed, 92 percent of Lexington has gone to Europe this year. It's the oddest

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

I've noticed

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

and it has nothing to do with the Olympics. Yeah. What's, what's the deal?

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

I don't know.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Well, there was one post last night. It was like, um, uh, these people I kind of know, uh, was in Paris and they ran into their neighbors in Paris. Didn't know they were there. And I'm like, Lord have mercy. Are we afraid that we are not going to have Paris next year?

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

That is not a place that I would want to be during the Olympics. Like, I don't want to go to the Olympics. Like I'll just watch them on TV.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

what everybody's going before, you know, maybe that's what it is. They're going before, before the Olympics hit, it's probably the cleanest it's ever going to be because I, the Parisian audience, if we have one, um, I have been told that Paris may not be the cleanest of cities, um, and maybe a little more smelly than some other cities, but you know, you got the Eiffel Tower and some good French food. Um, I've never been to Paris, you know, that's our bucket list for next year if we get there. No, when, not if, when, knock on wood. Um,

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Well, you best be buying plane tickets now.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

well,

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

wait till February, Kathy, if you're going in April. You gotta get them. Why are you looking at

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Next, you listen, Spottin.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

She cannot wait 60 days before.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

um, we've been to Paris twice and, um, just like any city, there's parts of it where it's nicer than, than others overall. Uh, you know, it's, it's just, okay. I'd rather be in the French countryside. Um, if.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

That's a very constant, consistent conversation. You got to do your bucket list when you go to France, you got to go to Paris, just so you've been there, done that. But then the rest of France is. More interesting truthfully and more welcoming and, uh, has more depth to it

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Now, London is probably one of the cleanest cities I've ever been to.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

really again, I say, really, I don't know anything about it, but, you know, we're supposed to go to London. Um, I, I have said, I want to go to London. Um, for a month and, um, you know, just stay over there for a long time. And she's pushing back and I was just like, well, let's do two weeks. I'm like, well, Lord, you know, if you're, if you're in one city for two days and you're here traveling and stuff, it eats up time. Uh, anyway, it sounds like a privilege problem, but, uh, uh, if you've got any insight, we'll talk later because it's not about travel log today. But, uh, if I get there, if I'm going to get there, I want to just see a whole lot of countries, but, um, do they make, my European audience and Jeremy will know, um, are the beds a lot smaller and a lot less more comfortable? My neck is going to break.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

it depends on the, uh, the hotel. There's like the standard, like old normal say older, but the, uh, a lot of the hotels, their beds are smaller, but there are newer, uh, Um, revamped hotels that are probably geared towards an American audience that the rooms are still going to be small. The rooms are going to be small, but the beds are bigger. So you can get a

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Gotcha. You can squeeze into the bed.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

it's, it's not very common. I mean, I remember when we went, when I was in high school and, uh, it was on a high school trip and like everybody's room was different. And like, we didn't have a shower, but we had a bathtub in the middle of our, of the room. Yeah. was, it was just, it was really,

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

that's

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

you know, the one thing though, is the elevators are minute. Like you, when we went anytime, we've been two people and maybe your luggage.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

in the elevator.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Yeah.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Yeah.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

The lift, as it

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Stuart would not be happy with

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

No, I would not

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

I mean, you know, a lot of

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

a

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

are like. Older, older buildings that they've repurposed into hotels. So

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Gotcha. Well, anyway, off the subject. So now we know Olympics and there you're going to

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

we'll get you

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

You're going to watch swimming and running. Yeah. Kathy, uh,

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

you tickets. I just pulled up April of 2025 for three weeks.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Yeah.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

They're currently, as of today, 2, 700 a person.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

for a flight,

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Delta, Comfort Plus. If you want to go first class, it's

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Oh, my

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

500 bucks.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

uh, you can, okay, this is

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Yeah, he can, yeah. But plan ahead.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

you, you can go, uh, American is usually cheaper and you can do there's a comfort. Well, we'll chat about that. So yeah, I'm American. I know I'm with you. I prefer Delta, but you know, you

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

I got to pay for four or five people.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

it's also probably cheaper for you to fly. It's cheaper for you to fly into London and then probably take the train, but I don't know if you want to do that. It's,

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Sure. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. no,

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

to find it,

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

no. Look, I don't want to waste the, the, the flight. I don't, that's waste to me. Right? Uh, I, I don't want to be tinkering in the sky. I don't want to be a legion, but, uh, sorry, legion, but you are, you lost my fucking suitcase and broke it. Allegiant. Uh, the first time it was used, broke it.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Uh,

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

tangent.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Jeremy and I, one time we came back from Vegas and my suitcase, it didn't come off the spinning the first time. I was like, where's my suitcase? And then finally here it comes. It didn't have two wheels. It was split on a side.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

huh

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

I was like, good Lord. Did it fly outside the plane from Vegas?

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

huh huh huh huh.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

So lighting is what we're going to talk about today.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Yeah, it's not vacation, yes.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

know, lighting, cause it is probably. Like, you know, picking up fabrics and stuff for, for a room, I think is super fun. But for the other part for me, the lighting is like the little candy and I get, so that's another thing I get really excited for with the space, because I think just lighting can be so interesting and so fun. And so that's what I wanted to talk about today. And there's so, there's so much to talk about, I guess, with lighting. I thought maybe we would talk about, we'll break some of the, like the basics down, but then I want to get into y'all's head and see how you mix lighting into a space. Right. So first we'll talk about like the three kinds of lighting. Right. So we know there's

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

There's ugly, there's acceptable, and then there's the correct one. Those are the three types. That's all they need to know. Ugly, okay, and that's the right one.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Uh huh,

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

I wish it was that simple. Well, you know, like, you know, everybody's been to like a restaurant or they've been somewhere and they walked in and they're like, this is a mood and it's always lighting, right? It's always, you know, they can put the coolest pictures. They can, they can do the most beautiful wall covering. They can have some really interesting architectural detail, but if the lighting is not what they're looking for. That is what makes that space so interesting. And I don't know if, um, everybody catches that. Like every time you walk into a space and you're just like, this is like pure magic, it's because of the lighting and they mix the right kind of, you know, the, the overall, the ambient lighting, and then they have. Task lighting, right? So that's for like, if you're sitting at a desk or working in the kitchen or, you know, things, so you can actually do a specific task. And then there's the accent lighting. And that's where you pinpoint specific parts that you want to be just highlighted, right? So whether it's lighting in a bookcase or like an art light or things like that. And I just, the, the combination of those, I think sometimes can get overlooked because people just want to do like the bare, not do the bare minimum, but like, they just won't be able to see. Right, like they just want to have light in there. Whereas, like, a couple of extra little things can really just make it really magical. And so I thought that would be interesting to talk about

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

No, it's layered. It's just layers. It's just like with good fabrics and a good room. You, you just have different elements and that's true with lighting how you, um, each, each part of it has a different purpose and it creates a different mood, but you mix it all together and you're like, Oh, this is magic. This, this, like you said, it takes you to a different place. It really does.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

It changes a boring, just a regular room into like

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Okay. So we're, we're walking in The front door. We're walking in our foyer. What are we doing? How are we going to get this foyer, uh, lit up?

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Well

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Let's say it's not a two story foyer. Let's just say it's got nine foot ceilings, nothing crazy. Uh, you've got a chest, um, piece of furniture in the foyer. What do we do?

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Also, you want to have it lit first. So you can see. So you want to do something from either in the ceiling or some kind of sexy little recessed lights or something just to generally light the space. But then don't miss the opportunity to put either an art light or to do some sconces over on that console build. That piece of furniture. So there's another little moment of something. Or you can even do a little buffet lamp or something over there. I think that that's more, more little details. Because I hate overhead light, truth be told.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

I do too. Um, so we've got nine foot ceilings. We can't have a chandelier, right? We're either going to have to do a flush mount light or a semi flush, right? But it could be a little bit larger scale as long as it doesn't hang down as far as width goes. You know, don't do a dippy one. Uh, but also you don't want it to hang down and feel like you have to duck your head and walk under it. Um, but I'm perfectly fine to what Jeremy just said. If you put a focus on this chest and it is, um, let's say, Hey, I'm not doing a complete remodel. I just want to add some detail. I can't do pictures, uh, lights. I can't do sconces. We're going to add pretty lamps, right? We're going to do buffet lamps, a big lamp lamp, right. Can do a whole lot. But, um, if we're doing a remodel and let's say that you don't want to. A recessed light of any form or a flush mount light. Um, what size of can lights are you, you guys kind of gearing toward? It sounds like an odd question, but I've been having this debate, um, because they're changing can lights, how you use them and how they're made and scale and size, and I have a certain approach. And every time I asked for it or want it, the electricians, not the clients, electricians push back on me and I'm like, Uh huh.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

I like four inch

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

But this is what I want. Anyway.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

four inch.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Yeah.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Um,

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

And are they pushing back against the 4 inch?

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

yeah. All

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Well, you know, six inch has a bigger spread

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Yeah. I don't care

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

And so when I asked for yeah, yeah, exactly. I don't care. I don't care Are four inch that's real small then

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Now, if the room is massive, okay, fine. We'll go up some, but in a normal nine foot ceiling scaled hallway, four inches, plenty. plenty,

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

hundred percent and i'm even going to i've always Remember going into art galleries and they always would have the art Like you said, Jeremy, the artwork highlighted or pinpointed. And I always remember very, very modern little can lights, even like just three inch ones, right? There's something about, like when you have a big ol six inch can light, that's just a big ol hole in the ceiling for me, right? But when I scale it down to four inch, but even that little three inch, little pinpoint, that's It takes it to a little more modern approach to it. And even though it's it's pinpointing on a piece of art That that little three inch can light for me is not now just a can light It's a part of the layer the element of the style of the room and that's where I can't get Uh, like the the electricians to hear me. It's like no, no, no, I get it and it's not a a of a, of a spread of light, but that's okay. I want to pin it and I want it to pivot. And I want it, you know, like it used to be eyeballs. And I, and again, you can tell me this is wrong, but now I'm hearing them like they call them, uh, uh, uh, gimbals. So I'm, this is kind of a therapy lesson. If it's done well, I saw Jeremy particularly shaking his head. Yes. You do that three inch little, uh, gimbal light. It becomes another layer of design. It's not a six inch. Can light. It's different to me and that's where they can't see it. It's like they always see it as just lighting. It's like, no, no, no. It's lighting has a purpose, but it also evokes a feeling and you can do that through a can light. Isn't that crazy? Do you believe

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

think. Absolutely. I also think that part of the disconnect, especially from like someone coming from our perspective and then electrician, what the electrician hears all the time is I need the space lit. So for them, you know, they're not Chico from, Candace Olsen's, show back in the day who understood how to use lighting to also accent the architecture, right? So they're just trying to light a space and fill it up so that someone says that when they, you know, turn the lights on, they can find their socks, right? So I think you, not every room needs to be lit. Not, not every room needs to be lit like a kitchen, right? A kitchen has a different purpose, a different need. You want that lit. You want your work surfaces extra bright. I don't need that. Every place in the house. Like I need like the experience and the mood and, and all the rest. So I feel like that could be part of the disconnect or why,

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Some, some spaces can be a little bit dark, right?

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Mm hmm.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

right? You can be, and

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Like a powder, like a powder room. Make it moody.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Mm hmm. Mm

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like, well, it's awful dark in there. Well, don't put your makeup on there, right? Go to the potty, wash your hands, move on. Right. Just, just don't.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Yeah, what all do you need to see in there? Get in, get out.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Well, if you can't find it, you probably ain't big enough. Let's move on.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

You know, speaking of Candice Olsen, she was one of them that I can't say that I always loved all of her lighting choices, but she was one that got it from lighting and I think that Uh, like growing up and watching her, like I always try to like paid attention to that of, you know, how she, how she placed the, the, um, the, the recess so far in front of the cabinet so that you lift the front of the cabinets in the kitchen

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

front of the draperies. She'd

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

yeah, in front of the draperies. Yeah.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

that all the time. I learned exactly learned that from her because I had no idea. I don't have a design background and learn that and things change anyway. If you do have a design background, but I learned that from her and I go, Oh, that's pretty. What goes back to, you know, I'm going to put four can lots in this, uh, 16 by 16 room and I can put one in each corner. Wow.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

You're gonna, you're gonna put a statue in each corner?

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Yeah, why? I mean, it's like, well, I got to light the room up and like, well, we can light it up in a different way and invariably, you're going to have light in close to each one of those corners or close enough, but yet the whole perimeter of this room, but I just don't need to stick a hand light in each corner, right? I've had that debate time after time after time after time after time. Well, I like everything to be symmetrical and the lights be in the corners because what you're showing me looks like. Uh, they're just kind of scattered. They are scattered. There's, there's no rhyme and reason. If you're looking at a blank room and see, you just see six can lights just randomly placed and they don't line up with each other. Right. The can lights don't need to be a runway. They just don't. Right. Once you get the draperies in and the chest in and the furniture in, then you turn the lights on and it highlights the thing. So you have to have the visual. To see these lights are not just lighting the room and the parameters and that's it. It's lighting again, the moments and the things. So right now these can lights, they're kind of just random cottage cheese all over, right? But once you get the furniture in, that's when it makes sense. And this is where you just have to trust me. This makes sense once it's all said and done. Because it is a lot easier not to have this conversation, right? Again, just stick four cans in the corner and we'll be fine, right? Sometimes you just get beat down and you just, just do it. I don't have an Emmy, but if you know that people are going to listen and they're going to listen because they've hired you and they trust you, you say, okay, this is really what I got to do. It doesn't make any sense. I'm not doing a runway of lights. That's just not what I need to do in the family room or in the bedroom even. Right? But once you get there, that's that's the thing. You can have a runway of lights in the kitchen a lot of times, not always, truthfully. That's not even true, right? That's not even true. Like you can have can lights highlighting the front of the cabinetry where the stove Juts out then you got to move that can light out in front of the the stove hood, right? So because if they were all in a in a line It doesn't work and so you have to say, well, that one's not going to line up. Well, don't shouldn't they all be in a row? No, no.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

is just, this is for everyone out there who thinks, oh people in their lives will ask some questions and their opinions on how to fix things. my parents built on an addition in the back of their house, um, several years ago. And while they were doing the bill in this big addition, they added a dining space and a new primary and kind of living room. Well, the, the, ceiling is not level. Well, it's level. It's just, it's lower in one part than the other. And when I say it's lower, it's probably maybe eight, eight and a half feet. Maybe. Um, it's, it's, it's too low for me, but you know, it's not my house. So Godspeed, do what you want. Um, however, in this space, that's probably 15 by 10, if that. So, I mean, it's, it's, it's okay. And this isn't the whole space. This is just where the dining space is, where the lower ceiling is. There are, 16 can light six inch can. Yeah.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Like a piece of cottage, like a piece of cheese up

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Uh huh. Yeah. swiss cheese. I said, mom, why didn't you call me? Like I would, like, I would have helped you like plan this out, you know? Well, you know, you're busy and we don't bother you. We figured this was enough. Like you can listen. Hospitals have less light than this does. And of course, you know, back when they put it out, Put these in, they put these gigantic, you know, um, floodlights in there. And of course they were all incandescent. So they turned the lights on. I'm like, I just don't know why it's so hot in here. I'm like, well, because you're basically like under a heat lamp, like at a restaurant. It's you know, uh, recess lights overall, I think are really fascinating because like you said, people want to like make some kind of organized grid structure. And I think that may come because there's a fear of not knowing how to do it or where to put it. And then I think, well, if I can put this in a grid, this makes sense. Like this makes it feel like it's even right. Where's the opposite of what you should do. You should be really thinking about having the plan of where you're going to be, how you're going to lay the room out, how it needs to, where's your path, right? Where's your traffic and figuring out where you need to lie because you don't want the Swiss cheese ceiling and you don't ever hardly look up unless your ceilings egg foot, um, when all the lights are on. So it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things anyway, like they disappear if they're put in right.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

That that's that they disappear. That's the key word. They disappear from your fixed ID on it right now. But once it's done, it's done right. You don't pay attention to them generally. Other than it goes back to my little three inch can light that's modern. And you do pay attention to that. In a good way, right? I don't know

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Well, it's because you know it's

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

always hones in on

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

You know that's

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Is that what it is? It's

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Like the other

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Well, it's a very pinpointed light. It's a very pinpointed light. It's a different kind.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

fair enough, fair enough.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

I'm even, I am the less I can use recess lights now. I'm trying to not, not to have used less light, but I have started to fall in love with using more small, uh, single bulb, uh, flush semi flush lights. Um, Jean Stoffer. She used some in her like a kitchen that she, I think maybe a kitchen in her house and I started noticing when it, when I went back and looked at my Pinterest board, um, for kitchens that I've, I've pinned a lot of kitchens that, you know, you had pendants or you had big, you know, big lights over the island, but where you would normally also use recess to kind of have those go up and away. They then used a smaller light and I'll put. I'll put an example or some examples down in the show notes. So people can understand. Cause then it's just like a little pieces of jewelry for me. Like I just like those

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Okay, so I hear you and I saw that and I know the reference who you're talking to and I was like, oh, and every one of her kitchens feels very vintage, uh, that I've paid attention to at least. The ones that, they have an older feel to them. That's my take on it at least. Um, but I look, I look at it and go, I couldn't see. To cook and I'm not being ugly. I'm not being ugly. There's just not enough light for me to be able to cook in there and I probably am never going to go that direction. I'm just be honest with you because I look at that and so I don't see how you can see the cook in the kitchen with that because I want to see, uh,

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

want to say that I'm taking, not using any recess lights. It's kind of using them in conjunction. So maybe they're

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Well, let's say it this way. She's an acclaimed kitchen designer in beautiful aesthetics, but I think her approach is wrong for the most part. I mean, I really do believe that because I've seen that and I go, well, you know, I don't know how you cook. Apparently, if you want a pretty kitchen and just for looks, you go ahead and do this. But if you really are a cook, this is not, not functional. You'll check. You're like, well, but you can do under mount lights. You can earn under cabinet lights. That's that's fine, but you need. Lights in front of you also. So I will, I get the aesthetic, but the functionality of that is off for me and ultimately I, I am, I love pretty, but if it's not functional, it, I think it's a failure,

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

sure.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

especially, right? So I think we've touched on based on this, you know, I've got, my kitchen's really odd. It's vaulted of all things in the kitchen. So that's, I'm coming from this. Having a kitchen that's difficult to light and difficult to see in, and that goes back to I've lived it for 17, 18 years, right? Truthfully. And, um, there's a bank of can lights in one area and that's a good chunk of it because I'm getting older, much older than everybody else in this audience or this, right? Much older. Um, It's harder for the see. And so I, we haven't touched the, the, the, um, on the base and serious part of the more expert on this, but you know, bright light and warm light. Well, there used to be a beautiful warm color of light that you want throughout your whole house. You don't want it to feel like a cafeteria. I had to change out those four can lights to daylight, bright light, be able to see. So, which is strong, right? But I had to do that. I couldn't see. So I, I had to.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

did you do it with a light bulb or did you switch them to an LED?

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

it's light bulbs. So our house is now almost 20 years old and it's old school and it's got the can light. So I just changed that with the light bulbs. So I may go back when I get some more money, uh, P gravel driveways and schools and no mine, European

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

I mean,

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

and change those out.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

can change them out now with a retrofit LED. It fits right in the same

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Okay. Tell, tell me what you got.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

It literally.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Tell me what you know.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

You know, it has the little threaded screw, just like a light bulb where, you know, how light bulb screws in, you know,

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Yeah.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

well, this retrofit led light for can lights has that right on it. And you screw it in just like a light bulb. And there's a little clip and it goes and just clips to the housing. And they're like, Yeah, they're like 16 bucks.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Will you post this, um, and share it with us, all of us,

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

because then you can get that, you can still get that 2, 700 or 3, 000 Kelvin light temperature without it being that daylight parking lot light bulb in your kitchen. Yeah.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

I don't love it. I don't love it. But yeah. Okay. This is perfect.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

So they're, they're not expensive at all. I actually got a house I'm working on right now. Of course it was built, it was built in 2016, so it's not horribly old, but old enough that it still has big traditional cans with light bulbs in it, you know, the floodlight light bulbs in it. And we have gone

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

So guys, what he's talking about is can lights are now changing. They used to, you know, the great big old hole and you screw in a light bulb. Well, now they've moved, um, away from that completely, I think 99 percent of the time. And is it called wafers? Stuart

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

no, I'm not even, I'm not even talking about the pancake, the little pancake thing. I'm not even talking about

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

No, no, I'm jumping around that you're buying one thing. But what's the new can lot like called now

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Yeah. Oh yeah.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

it. is a

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Yeah, yeah,

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

So explain that to everybody about what the new can line is. I moved on from you fixing my kitchen problem to now this new can lot

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Well, I was, I was still telling a story. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

You tell that story, honey, I'm sorry. You look good today, by the way. By the way, boys and girls, you don't always see, well I don't know if you ever see Stuart in his videos or anything, but yesterday he wore his Magnum PI shirt. And he looked good in it,

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Oh, he did, didn't he?

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

He did look good in it, but I always think of Magnum and it's like, if anything, it's the shirt and there's a whole lot of chest hair. Right? That's just, that's what you've visualized for, for me and Magnum, right? Well in the, the, what's the car? He

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

The Ferrari, Yeah.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

but Stuart doesn't have the, right? But, so I unbuttoned Stuart's, um, shirt to let some of the chest hair and he puffed that out. He's been working out. He's now at a 169 pounds, is that what you said?

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Of solid gold.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

say pure muscle.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

you are

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Ha ha ha

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

ha

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

he said, I finally, I'm up to 169. I said, baby, I was 169 in the fourth grade. So I've always wore the Huskies, Huskies anyway,

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Uh, little wafer, wafer light. So, it, it's kind of like it says, it's kind of like, ha ha ha, kind of like thin like a communion cracker.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Yeah.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

just really thin, little. Pancakey lights. Um,

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

So where before it recessed up into the

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

right now it kind of sits on the ceiling. and I use those, but I typically only use those in closets. Or like in a task area in a laundry room. I don't put those in a, in a common space at all because I think they, they look

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

personally, I don't,

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

yeah, But in a closet, I think they're perfect. If you want to light up a closet because they take up zero room, they pass a fire code, they don't get hot. They're great. So, um, but to scatter them throughout the house, I probably would not advise that.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

yeah, for me, it takes the whole, it, for me, it takes the whole purpose of, you know, recess where it kind of, if, where the lights disappear up into the ceiling and then the light just comes down, it now then brings the light below the ceiling and then it comes down. So for me, it takes, it brings more attention to them. So I'm like, well, if you're going to bring my attention to them, I'd rather be like a pretty light, right. The versus this little lighting desk. So. I've had a few times where, uh, the electrician, uh, or the space when they were putting it in, like the contractor maybe wasn't consulted on that. And then they just put those in and wasn't my favorite, but, um, you know, in the kitchen or something like that, where you need to see it was fine. Uh, but in the living room where they, uh, we have other lighting sources. They never turn them on because they don't, they don't like how it works.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Right.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Dwayne, you mentioned, your vaulted kitchen and I, part of what I wanted to talk about today was if, how you would handle, would you handle your big open space differently with lighting? Cause I remember when you all were building the house, you struggled with the idea of how many hanging light fixtures can I put into the space? Because the dining area is open to the kitchen, which is open

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Mm hmm.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

I mean, it's the living room, right? It's all right there. How many, how many big lighting fixtures is too much? Cause you know, so many people want a big open living spaces and then they walk into it and they're like, Oh, how do I like this?

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

I don't remember. do you have, do you have pendants over your island? I don't remember. Or just the cans up there.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

No. Neither. It's actually, uh, randomly a crystal chandelier.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

But you do have something over the

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

source of light.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Yeah.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

The, yeah, a big, the, the big light fixture and it's like a nine arm, 10 arm light fixture. Uh, yeah, I would completely re imagine how I got that, that, the great room space lit. I pretty much hate it. Um, but you know, that was again, 20 years ago and what I know now, I certainly didn't know then. And also technology has improved. And so I go back to after paying for the pea gravel annex and the European vacation and the new countertops, um, I'm going to, uh, redo everything in that, um, so I really need to win the lottery or you people need to go to houseflorals. com and buy some more flowers. So I'll be rich. Uh, Uh, but I keep keep wanting to redo all that lotting, but it probably will never happen. Truthfully. I'll just live with it because it's too expensive, too big.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

so do you have three, do you have two big fixtures hanging from the ceiling? Or is there three?

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

There's there's. Three in that over the kitchen island is a goopy, goopy, goopy crystal chandelier. Then remember, um, Suzanne bought that wire basket thing that we ordered. That's, that's 10 feet apart from each other. That's hanging over the kitchen table. They don't make any sense at all, right? And then you pivot and there's a great big ceiling fan that doesn't have a lot in it. And it's wood in the warmer casual and, and, She's important because again, great rooms are wonderful, but vaulted is problematic and it's always hot. And so that fan keeps the air going. So I have to have that fan hanging there to keep the air going truthfully. And then, um, you know, I need a live picture over each of those spaces, but I probably would change them out to them being more relatable to each other at this point. And,

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

so it's not an issue of you're still okay with, and not that I'm saying there's anything wrong with it.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

yeah, yeah,

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

get your, cause people struggle. Like, well, if I have a chandelier over the dining room table and it's 10 or 15 feet away from the kitchen island, do I do, do I do another big or some big pendants that like there's a, there's a challenge of like, how much

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

of the fact that there's, yeah, I don't know. I don't feel like I have a problem seeing three big things, ceiling fan, chandelier, chandelier, right? I don't have that problem. I wish the two chandeliers though were more copacetic with each other because one is pretty goopy formal and one's a little more casual and that's just how it inherited at the time and it made sense 20 years ago. Now it doesn't make sense for me but again, uh, my lovely bride probably. Doesn't see a problem with it. And so it probably never get changed. Uh, and I'll probably just move on and pick up their battles. Um, but if I could, I'd probably switch it out and, and, you know, again, it goes back to money. Everything's money and budgets and all those kinds of things. And so those are two big ticket items, um, that would take some effort to, you know, it's huge. It's, it's really tall electricians. The light fixture that's hanging over the, um, kitchen island. It's again, goopy and crystal and formal. It was 100. Now, how in the world do you buy a goopy crystal? Nice. It's a nice crystal chandelier. If you like formal and it's big, they had, um, a lighting closeout sale and actually we were flying back in October from, um, Vacation and Disney World, you know, spending 1, 222, 000 on French fries alone. Uh, and in

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

You could have had your light then

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

I could have had a lot exactly where I, I do remember building that house going over budget and on this vacation and going, I can't even buy French fries today. This is not a good decision to be here. I do remember that truthfully. That's 20. Years ago. Uh, and so with that said, um, I got off the plane, drove over to the lighting store. She had that light fixture held and it was about a 4, 000 light. I can't make this up for the, had a missing arm. You never notice it's missing. That's the way I got it. And it was 100, right? So I love the story and the, the. personality behind it. So I probably would switch out the wire basket one that's more casual. But then I, but then I had to get in a fight with Suzanne Mason over that. So it's got a story behind it. And I was like, bitch, you can't have my life.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Love you Suzanne she listens by the

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

know. Well, she was just, it was so funny. She was in here. Suzanne, um, point of reference guys is, um, uh, one of our former employees that worked at a former shop and she worked with us and, but she was also a customer and Jeremy helped her. So there was this lot fixture that she wanted and I had my name on it. And she said, I want to buy that. And I said, you can't buy it. It's mine. Who she said, but you can't have it in the store and not sell. I say, it's mine. So we got in a fight over the light fixture, so she reminded me I had to order her one and she's like, you know, you can't do that. You still can't do that, right? But this was just like a conversation and Suzanne moves out. She's moved out of state years ago, but she comes in and sitting back in Lexington. But she just reminded me of that conversation recently, truthfully. She's like, bitch, I can get you a light fixture. I got more money than you got, right? And

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Well, so this this

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

money.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

This brings up an interesting point of, um, mixing light fixtures. So you've got your chandelier, your crystal chandelier, and you've got that, um, It's eclectic. Okay. That's what we'll call it. Okay. Um, quirky. It's like a little you know, the little odd, you know, the little people that wear some clothes and

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Yeah.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

those interesting choices and they consciously made them and they're quirky. I'm happy for them. You do you baby. Um, but, um, you know, I tend to try to do like what I will never suggest. Well, I can't say that you can never say never. Um, what I would rarely ever suggest is picking out a collection from a lighting

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Oh my God.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

So like, if you're building a house, you go to the builder and they're just going to pick out the collection, right? So they just can guarantee that

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Yeah, yeah,

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

that it's, that's like going into a furniture store and buying every piece that

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Well, let me, let me stop you there and say, pick up the word. I put down that it is, um, how do I say it? That it is, um, edited that Oh, relate. That. Relate. That was a purposely delivered word. I didn't say by the set. I didn't say they match. I said they relate and that's different. That's different. Yeah. I'm on the same page with you.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

what I all, all I'm trying to suggest is if you're in a space, don't do that. Because we don't, we, we don't, don't pick a collection, I guess we don't need it to feel like you bought the whole collection from Lowe's. Right. We don't that, that's, so let's make it some a little more interesting. So I found that that's where a lot of people will struggle trying to put different looks or different items together. And so I always just say, look, let's find. Like, let's look at the, the light that you love that we're starting with. So if it was like the chandelier over, you know, whatever, wherever it is, and you know, it's a little more streamlined and then what finishes are on it. And then how does the glass work? And then let's work with, do something like that. You said relates to it. It's not exact, but they just work together. Let's do that versus

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Kind of like our relationship. We, we, we, we relate to each other.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Yes, I wish they could see Stuart's face.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

some skinny little asses. I love it. You know, people have said they love our banter. And I was like, oh, is that what you call this? Okay. Never, I

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

That's called real life, is what that's called.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Yeah.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Banter. Banter. it. is not made up. It's just how we talk all day long.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Okay, you know though, I'm going to, I'm going to say this, I put a can light when I do remodels or new builds over every sink in every bathroom that I possibly can, right in front of me. I want a can light that's right in front of you and then you turn it on, that light hits right in the middle of the bowl so you can see to brush your teeth and then sconces on the sides. I. Or chandelier back behind you. But I got that function that can light right in front of you. See it. Now, the other thing I I've realized I keep coming back to, I do not like those bathroom lights that are on the bar that go right above the mirror that just says bathroom to me

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Van, yeah, the, what they call the vanity

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

There are some good ones. I'm, I'm not gonna say a broad stroke. There are some decent ones, but generally I'm really gonna try to get away from those. They, they, they just say bathroom to me and I want the bathroom not to be as bathroom E. And so I, if I get my can light and I get my sconces, which are really just for pretty, in a way you get some light from'em, but really it's, that can light directly in over your head, in front of you, in front of that. That's how I do it. Is that your all's approach or you do it differently?

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

I don't stick it right over the vanity, no. I make sure there are some in there. But I 90% 5 percent use sconces rather than a bar light, unless it's a very small, um, like, you know, sometimes powder rooms are super tight and you can't get two sconces in there. So,

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

primary primary is going to

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

yeah. So, so You got to use something different. Right. So, um, I will use, Yeah, I will use them, but that's probably the one fixture that I will look the hardest for. So it doesn't look like something else that, Is out of a cookie cutter, you know,

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

fair. Yeah,

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

but no, I prefer sconces for sure.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

yeah, no, and there are, I don't want to say that there are good

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Yeah, there, There are You just got, you just got

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

there are, there are, so I don't want to say that. Yeah, but if I had my druthers, I'd rather do sconces, because again, it evokes a different mood. But what Stuart just said, that's, you have to have a lot more space, and so a lot of times that's not an option, truthfully, once it's all said and done. Yeah,

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

I will, it depends on what the sink is. If it's in a primary and this is where the person's getting ready. Yes. I will also have a, uh, a recess or something above the bowl on the front, as well as sconces. If it's a powder, probably not because I'm trying to do something a little more moody or a little more interesting.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

I agree.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

yeah. Um, but even like in our kitchen, uh, I, I I really wanted a decorative light above the sink.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Mm hmm,

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

and cause I just like the look of it. So what I did was I flanked either side of the, uh, sink. Of course, there's countertop on either side of it too, there's recesses there. So with those alone, there's enough light there to see the, the, the one above the sink, when you turn it on it, it lights, it's just purely candy. Um, but it just looks good.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Yeah, it's a not like it's a mood light. Well, you know, I'm working with um, the clients is building that cute little Southern living bungalow And it's got you know inset kitchen cabinet doors and shiplap and all kinds of gorgeous details And so I wanted what you just said one of those little uh, Lights right over the sink and again, I see it on it. Not time for not lying for mood. And it also just evokes us. And, uh, but then it also have a can over the sink to see by to work out what you just said and, um, came back to, uh, me from the homeowner that they couldn't do it because it wouldn't pass code.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Huh?

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Oh, uh huh, this,

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Little light over the sink.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

just days ago, wouldn't pass code in it and

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

a can light in there and take it down when they're done. Well,

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

I, said, and that's exactly what I said. I said, well, I didn't know that that was a new code or right. And I said, well, just go ahead and have the electrician just wire it. And after you get your, um, what is it? Um, Theo, thank you. Uh, then we'll just come back and put it in once you, once you get moved in. And she said, okay, right. Problem solved. Came back to said the electrician wouldn't drill a hole into the header. And I just went, okay, I'm not, I'm not arguing over it. I'm not fighting over it. And it's like, if you, if this is what you want, I'm moving on. But that's what I got just days ago. And I was like, okay, whatever,

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

I mean,

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

this just

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

how many chandeliers do you see over bathtubs? A ton, but they didn't pass inspection that way.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

well they, but they, well, they tell you

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

they either left a loop in there that they pulled through afterwards or it's a can light.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Well, I guess, I guess what I landed with this one was like, I don't know who this electrician is, but being overly cautious or difficult and I'm not there at the project and the client's not pushing back. And basically, I, as, as if I were there, or if I were the client, I'm like, well, you need to do it. Because I'm paying you to do this, right? I really, I just, that's how I do it. Or you just, you just need to leave. I, I'm not being, I have done that. You know that, right? I've done that. It's like, I'm not, I'm not asking for you to destroy something but this is a little nuance of a detail that I need. It's important. Just do it. Just do it. Anyway, there you go. Hateful. So I don't know what happened. I don't know if she got around it or didn't. I just asked. I was like, okay, whatever. I, I can't have twenty two conversations about this one.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

I am a lazy person. Not really. I mean, Jeremy might disagree with me at home when I'm so exhausted, but

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

your mother in law Beverly say about you?

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

she, she loves me.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Okay, thank you

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

loves me. Um, What, what, uh, what and what, where I was going with that was there ain't a, uh, well, we're gonna make this as country as we can. They ain't a lamp up in this place that isn't on a timer. I have everything. Everything's on a timer. I don't turn on a light switch in our house. You know what it does? It's like the instant magic. You don't have to worry about it. It's like, even in our primary, like, those lights go off at a certain time, and we're always in bed by that time, and we're always watching television by that time, but I just like, I don't have

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Yeah. I have, I think probably eight different timers throughout the house and stuff just comes on and goes off by itself.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

I don't have any I can't figure out how to make them work.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Well, how do you just plug it in and push the little button?

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

You, got two smart children that can figure that out for you.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

They don't they don't care I I did I did I did buy and and they are really complicated just I think Uh, light switches that you can, um, program and make the lights come on. Like I got, um, uh, a library light or picture light over the, the picture light in the halt back hallway and the sconces, and I did do that. And, uh, but let me tell you, that was a lot of programming a lot, but it worked finally,

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Well, a timers are a tip for me as far as if you've put in all this work, if you feel like you've layered the art or not the art, if you feel like you've layered the lighting and you want to have that instant charm when you get home or all that. Put everything on a timer and then, you know, they used to be really expensive. They've come down in price so much, uh, now, but the ones you can either do with your phone, you can, you don't have to have them on your phone. Like, I mean, it, there's just something magical, nice about it. Not having to worry about it. I love it. I love a

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Cause most of them are hid behind a piece of furniture or something. So you don't ever see it, you know, but they are inexpensive. I think they're like 6.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

there's something magical and special about it that you just don't have to worry about, you

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Well, you know what? I think our listeners will understand this. Um, and I know that you all will too. Um, but you know, you make a lot of decisions during the day. You instruct a lot of people how to do things during the day. You answer a lot of questions. You make a lot of phone calls. You do a lot of texts. When I get home, one less thing that I have to worry about.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Right.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

That is something that brings me joy and is as simple as a light fixture. I know that sounds like that sounds totally idiotic and privileged and ridiculous. I under, I hear the ridiculousness in that statement, but for me knowing that, and if we're out, if we go to dinner, my lights still come on and go off.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Yeah.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

keeping the burglars away.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

I'm getting, well, that there's one thing to that, you know, there's that. I mean, nobody ever knows if we're home and we're all, we're always home. Um, yeah. And, um, but yeah, no, it's just, that's like a little treat, treat yourself, treat

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Well, and that, that was, uh, uh, Jeremy, my Jeremy, not this podcast, Jeremy. He's like, I'm gonna put all of the exterior lights on automation. I was like, what? I said, we don't need that. I said, that's, that's dumb. We don't need that. You know, like porch lights and all those kind of things. Cause there's, you know, a lot of porches. And, uh, I was like, okay, yeah, I was like, fine, just do it. So he got the thing, switched the things. He's like, here's the app, go on the app, blah, blah, blah. I was like, I'm never gonna use this. Shit, I use that every night. Cause I can sit there on the couch, I'm like, Oh, I'm gonna turn the lights on throughout the house.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

And now

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

And you just click

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

him? Have you said

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

I did. I have. I have. I said, you know, I thought this was the dumbest thing in the world. And I said, here, I am using it. Cause you can even set if you want it on it. 100%, 50%, 75%, 25%. You can control the glow of the light outside.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

is why that relationship is going to last. Is because of what you just did. That's like, baby, I love you. I thought this was real dumb, but you're real

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

I know. And it, it works

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

me see. Does he have hair?

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

he's bald.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

not in a really easy. I can't think I can remember so you think that's important Don't you know I can remember I was gonna say you can rub his little bald head to not say I love you, baby

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Alright,

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Let me light your bowl.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

he can, he can go light his bulb and rub his head and whatever. Uh, okay. So.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

last night for 35 minutes. I don't know where it came from, but it came from somewhere and she, nothing was right. The crayons weren't the right color. I was like, honey, it's red. It's not the right red. She's trying to make Jeremy birthday card, but then she made a circle for a balloon and she goes, I made it too small. I need to throw this away. I said, no, we'll just make it bigger. How do you make it bigger? So I made a bigger balloon circle. That's too big. I mean, it tried my patience last night. And then finally she went, daddy,

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

get less patience as the older you get. So, um,

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

And then she was like, Daddy, I'm hungry. I said, I'm hungry. Is all of this because you are hungry? Yeah. I said, why don't you just tell me 35 minutes ago, let's eat dinner instead of throwing a fit. I mean, she went running through the grass, kicked her feet, screamed.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

lord.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

she never does

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

be on good behavior when I go to Atlanta, hadn't I? I better be not ugly this

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

great! Hey!

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

I hadn't eaten either, so it was not a good situation. And then, get her a shower, get her pajamas on. She sits there, and she went, Daddy, I feel really terrible that I was mean to you.

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

He

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

She did and I said, Honey, I think it's because you were hungry. And she goes, You were hungry too, because you were mean too. And I said, Which is why we both ate. I said, So we're going to go to bed. So,

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

That's cute. That's cute. Bless his heart.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

we started over

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

The drama is just now

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

I know. And I asked her, I said, do you throw these tantrums in front of Aunt Pea and Aunt Candy and Aunt No No and Uncle Pete? She's like, no. I said, well, why are you throwing it in front of me? Cause you'll love me anyway.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Hehehehehehehehe Hehehehe

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

are screwed, brother. You're

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

all coming back. Mm hmm.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

This is the best.

stuart_1_07-12-2024_101521:

All right.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Alright! Well thank you guys. I think we had a fun and interesting conversation today about lighting. Hopefully

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

Yeah, yeah,

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

out there with

dwayne-guest116_1_07-12-2024_101451:

turned a little. I did. Thank you, Stuart, for sharing that. I did not know this. So we learned a little today. Love it.

jeremy_1_07-12-2024_101521:

Well, we will see you next week.

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